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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-stable@nongnu.org,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] vhost: correctly turn on VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:04:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <158fbd3b-1285-e18d-b535-a1e7a9802f1f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200316181405.GB184827@xz-x1>


On 2020/3/17 上午2:14, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 01:19:54PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:31:22PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:29:59AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 01:44:46PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>> CCing Tom. @Tom does vhost-vsock work for you with SEV and current qemu?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, one can specify iommu_platform=on on a device that ain't a part of
>>>>>>> a secure-capable VM, just for the fun of it. And that breaks
>>>>>>> vhost-vsock. Or is setting iommu_platform=on only valid if
>>>>>>> qemu-system-s390x is protected virtualization capable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, I don't have a strong opinion on the fixes tag. We currently do not
>>>>>>> recommend setting iommu_platform, and thus I don't think we care too
>>>>>>> much about past qemus having problems with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Halil
>>>>>> Let's just say if we do have a Fixes: tag we want to set it correctly to
>>>>>> the commit that needs this fix.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I finally did some digging regarding the performance degradation. For
>>>>> s390x the performance degradation on vhost-net was introduced by commit
>>>>> 076a93d797 ("exec: simplify address_space_get_iotlb_entry"). Before
>>>>> IOMMUTLBEntry.addr_mask used to be based on plen, which in turn was
>>>>> calculated as the rest of the memory regions size (from address), and
>>>>> covered most of the guest address space. That is we didn't have a whole
>>>>> lot of IOTLB API overhead.
>>>>>
>>>>> With commit 076a93d797 I see IOMMUTLBEntry.addr_mask == 0xfff which comes
>>>>> as ~TARGET_PAGE_MASK from flatview_do_translate(). To have things working
>>>>> properly I applied 75e5b70e6, b021d1c044, and d542800d1e on the level of
>>>>> 076a93d797 and 076a93d797~1.
>>>> Peter, what's your take on this one?
>>> Commit 076a93d797 was one of the patchset where we want to provide
>>> sensible IOTLB entries and also that should start to work with huge
>>> pages.
>> So the issue bundamentally is that it
>> never produces entries larger than page size.
>>
>> Wasteful even just with huge pages, all the more
>> so which passthrough which could have giga-byte
>> entries.
>>
>> Want to try fixing that?
> Yes we can fix that, but I'm still not sure whether changing the
> interface of address_space_get_iotlb_entry() to cover adhoc regions is
> a good idea, because I think it's still a memory core API and imho it
> would still be good to have IOTLBs returned to be what the hardware
> will be using (always page aligned IOTLBs).  Also it would still be
> not ideal because vhost backend will still need to send the MISSING
> messages and block for each of the continuous guest memory ranges
> registered, so there will still be misterious delay.  Not to say
> logically all the caches can be invalidated too so in that sense I
> think it's as hacky as the vhost speedup patch mentioned below..
>
> Ideally I think vhost should be able to know when PT is enabled or
> disabled for the device, so the vhost backend (kernel or userspace)
> should be able to directly use GPA for DMA.  That might need some new
> vhost interface.


Yes but I think we don't need another API since we can send GPA->HVA 
mapping via device IOTLB API when we find there's no DMA translation at 
all (either PT or no vIOMMU).

Vhost doesn't need to know whether an address is an IOVA (vIOMMU) , GPA 
(no vIOMMU), or even HVA (dpdk virtio-user).

Thanks


>
> For the s390's specific issue, I would think Jason's patch an simple
> and ideal solution already.
>
> Thanks,
>



  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-17  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26  9:43 [PATCH V2] vhost: correctly turn on VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM Jason Wang
2020-02-26  9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 10:17   ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26 11:44     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 12:50       ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 12:55   ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 13:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 13:28 ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 13:37   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 15:36     ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-26 16:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-27 13:02         ` Halil Pasic
2020-02-27 15:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-03 14:44             ` Halil Pasic
2020-03-13 12:44             ` Halil Pasic
2020-03-13 15:29               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-13 16:31                 ` Peter Xu
2020-03-16 16:57                   ` Halil Pasic
2020-03-16 17:31                     ` Peter Xu
2020-03-16 17:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-16 18:14                     ` Peter Xu
2020-03-17  3:04                       ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-03-17 14:13                         ` Peter Xu
2020-03-18  2:06                           ` Jason Wang
2020-03-17  6:28                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-17 14:39                         ` Peter Xu
2020-03-17 14:55                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-13 20:27               ` Brijesh Singh
2020-03-14 18:22                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-27 20:36           ` Tom Lendacky

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