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From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
	"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Laurent Vivier" <Laurent@vivier.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] hw/mos6522: VIA timer emulation fixes and improvements
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 09:34:06 +1100 (AEDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <159c1cb-eec0-d689-1df7-8fcfdc2e5c25@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-h2B3JELSrQs0dP3shqPNDe2NDMqCqT5oGoOjjM6mzRw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 22 Nov 2021, Peter Maydell wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 23:40, Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > Anyway, thanks for taking the time to write. A competent reviewer has to
> > do much more than that, but I'm not paying for competence so I suppose I'm
> > asking too much.
> 
> Please dial back the aggressive tone here, Finn: this kind of
> thing is way out of line. We're all trying to help improve QEMU here,
> and sniping at Mark is not constructive.
> 

Peter, you seem to have misunderstood what I wrote. What I said was not 
sniping. "Incompetent" was my conclusion after I judiciously rejected 
"malicious". Here's what I mean by incompetent.


CONTRIBUTOR: Here's a patch.

MAINTAINER: I personally don't like that pattern. End of story.

CONTRIBUTOR: I don't think I'll contribute further to this project.

[Everyone loses.]


Now, here's what I would consider "competent":

CONTRIBUTOR: Here's a patch.

MAINTAINER: That pattern (I've quoted it to help further the discussion) 
is widely deprecated. You should use a different pattern instead. [Or read 
this reference. Or refer to this code.]

CONTRIBUTOR: OK, I see that this really is a problem, and I see that there 
really is a better way. However, the antipattern is already part of 
existing code, and my changes don't worsen the problem, and don't require 
that the problem persist.

MAINTAINER: You're right. My bad (I'm new to this). Since I never bothered 
to fix the existing antipattern, and no-one else thought it was worth 
fixing either, clearly it's not that important, and I should not have 
sought to veto your work, which is substantially unrelated, and beneficial 
either way.

CONTRIBUTOR: No problem.

[Everyone wins.]


Finally, here's the background for you to ponder, in case you would like 
to intervene to produce a better outcome. (I think you are potentially 
well positioned for that.)

https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/cover.1629799776.git.fthain@linux-m68k.org/
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/cover.1632437396.git.fthain@linux-m68k.org/


      reply	other threads:[~2021-11-22 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-23 22:49 [PATCH v1 0/9] hw/mos6522: VIA timer emulation fixes and improvements Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] hw/mos6522: Call mos6522_update_irq() when appropriate Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] hw/mos6522: Remove redundant mos6522_timer1_update() calls Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] hw/mos6522: Remove get_counter_value() methods and functions Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] hw/mos6522: Remove get_load_time() " Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] hw/mos6522: Rename timer callback functions Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] hw/mos6522: Fix initial timer counter reload Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] hw/mos6522: Implement oneshot mode Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] hw/mos6522: Avoid using discrepant QEMU clock values Finn Thain
2021-09-23 22:49 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] hw/mos6522: Synchronize timer interrupt and timer counter Finn Thain
2021-11-17  3:03 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] hw/mos6522: VIA timer emulation fixes and improvements Finn Thain
2021-11-18 11:13   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-11-19  8:39     ` Finn Thain
2021-11-20 21:53       ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-11-20 23:38         ` Finn Thain
2021-11-22 17:00           ` Peter Maydell
2021-11-22 22:34             ` Finn Thain [this message]

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