From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Milwe-0000Wz-R9 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:16:01 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MilwZ-0000Ra-Ou for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:16:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33042 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MilwZ-0000RJ-Hc for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:15:55 -0400 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr ([212.27.42.2]:32911) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MilwY-0003tE-TU for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:15:55 -0400 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA8A4B01DD for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from laptop (vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net [82.244.111.82]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0914B01B5 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:15:48 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4A9E178D.90804@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: QEMU as a "virtual smart card"? From: "=?utf-8?q?Fran=C3=A7ois?= Revol" Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:17:14 +0200 CEST Message-Id: <1603265261-BeMail@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org > > At least looking naively at QEMU, it seems that its CPU and RAM are > > well protected from the host operating system--in a way to say make > > it > > practically impossible for some malware to extract the secret key > > used > > in a virtual machine. > > I don't understand: the host operating system, by definition, can see > everything. A privileged process (i.e. running as root) can always > look > at /dev/mem and read info about QEMU's CPU and RAM. Or attach gdb and step the whole thing or put breakpoints on ReadPassword() :) Fran=C3=A7ois.