qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: "Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	devel@lists.libvirt.org,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH-for-9.0 v2] hw/i386/pc: Deprecate 64-bit CPUs on ISA-only PC machine
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:39:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <179a8cbf-b645-4027-ad53-13c4beb4f099@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70006b4e-b2ae-4d74-be22-4dabf46e0217@ilande.co.uk>

On 28/03/2024 16.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
> On 27/03/2024 16:54, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> 
>> Per Daniel suggestion [*]:
>>
>>   > isapc could arguably be restricted to just 32-bit CPU models,
>>   > because we should not need it to support any feature that didn't
>>   > exist prior to circa 1995. eg refuse to start with isapc, if 'lm'
>>   > is present in the CPU model for example.
>>
>> Display a warning when such CPU is used:
>>
>>    $ qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio -S -M isapc -cpu Westmere
>>    qemu-system-x86_64: warning: Use of 64-bit CPU 'Westmere' is deprecated 
>> on the ISA-only PC machine
>>    QEMU 8.2.91 monitor - type 'help' for more information
>>    (qemu) q
>>
>>    $ qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio -S -M isapc -cpu athlon
>>    QEMU 8.2.91 monitor - type 'help' for more information
>>    (qemu) q
>>
>> [*] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/ZgQkS4RPmSt5Xa08@redhat.com/
>>
>> Suggested-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org>
>> ---
>>   docs/about/deprecated.rst |  7 +++++++
>>   include/hw/i386/pc.h      |  1 +
>>   hw/i386/pc_piix.c         | 14 ++++++++++++++
>>   3 files changed, 22 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/docs/about/deprecated.rst b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
>> index 7b548519b5..345c35507f 100644
>> --- a/docs/about/deprecated.rst
>> +++ b/docs/about/deprecated.rst
>> @@ -208,6 +208,13 @@ is no longer packaged in any distro making it harder 
>> to run the
>>   ``check-tcg`` tests. Unless we can improve the testing situation there
>>   is a chance the code will bitrot without anyone noticing.
>> +64-bit (x86_64) CPUs on the ``isapc`` machine (since 9.0)
>> +'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
>> +
>> +The ``isapc`` machine aims to emulate old PC machine without PCI was
>> +generalized, so hardware available around 1995, before 64-bit intel
>> +CPUs were produced.
>> +
>>   System emulator machines
>>   ------------------------
>> diff --git a/include/hw/i386/pc.h b/include/hw/i386/pc.h
>> index 27a68071d7..2d202b9549 100644
>> --- a/include/hw/i386/pc.h
>> +++ b/include/hw/i386/pc.h
>> @@ -96,6 +96,7 @@ struct PCMachineClass {
>>       const char *default_south_bridge;
>>       /* Compat options: */
>> +    bool deprecate_64bit_cpu; /* Specific to the 'isapc' machine */
>>       /* Default CPU model version.  See x86_cpu_set_default_version(). */
>>       int default_cpu_version;
>> diff --git a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
>> index 18ba076609..2e5b2efc33 100644
>> --- a/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
>> +++ b/hw/i386/pc_piix.c
>> @@ -182,7 +182,20 @@ static void pc_init1(MachineState *machine, const 
>> char *pci_type)
>>       }
>>       pc_machine_init_sgx_epc(pcms);
>> +
>>       x86_cpus_init(x86ms, pcmc->default_cpu_version);
>> +    if (pcmc->deprecate_64bit_cpu) {
>> +        X86CPU *cpu = X86_CPU(first_cpu);
>> +
>> +        if (cpu->env.features[FEAT_8000_0001_EDX] & CPUID_EXT2_LM) {
>> +            const char *cpu_type = object_get_typename(OBJECT(first_cpu));
>> +            int cpu_len = strlen(cpu_type) - strlen(X86_CPU_TYPE_SUFFIX);
>> +
>> +            warn_report("Use of 64-bit CPU '%.*s' is deprecated"
>> +                        " on the ISA-only PC machine",
>> +                        cpu_len, cpu_type);
>> +        }
>> +    }
>>       if (kvm_enabled()) {
>>           kvmclock_create(pcmc->kvmclock_create_always);
>> @@ -918,6 +931,7 @@ static void isapc_machine_options(MachineClass *m)
>>       pcmc->gigabyte_align = false;
>>       pcmc->smbios_legacy_mode = true;
>>       pcmc->has_reserved_memory = false;
>> +    pcmc->deprecate_64bit_cpu = true;
>>       m->default_nic = "ne2k_isa";
>>       m->default_cpu_type = X86_CPU_TYPE_NAME("486");
>>       m->no_parallel = !module_object_class_by_name(TYPE_ISA_PARALLEL);
> 
> The logic around checking CPUID_EXT2_LM looks good to me. Slightly curious 
> as to whether people feel updating PCMachineClass is necessary, or you can 
> simply do qdev_get_machine() and use object_dynamic_cast() to see if the 
> machine matches MACHINE_NAME("isapc") and warn that way?

Why don't you simply pass it as a parameter from pc_init_isa() instead? Or 
do the whole check in pc_init_isa() instead?

  Thomas



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-28 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-27 16:54 [PATCH-for-9.0 v2] hw/i386/pc: Deprecate 64-bit CPUs on ISA-only PC machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-03-27 17:29 ` Marcin Juszkiewicz
2024-03-27 18:29   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-03-28 15:12 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2024-03-28 15:39   ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2024-03-29 10:26     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-03-28 15:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=179a8cbf-b645-4027-ad53-13c4beb4f099@redhat.com \
    --to=thuth@redhat.com \
    --cc=berrange@redhat.com \
    --cc=devel@lists.libvirt.org \
    --cc=eduardo@habkost.net \
    --cc=imammedo@redhat.com \
    --cc=kraxel@redhat.com \
    --cc=marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com \
    --cc=mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk \
    --cc=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=pbonzini@redhat.com \
    --cc=philmd@linaro.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=richard.henderson@linaro.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).