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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Roman Kagan" <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"cota@braap.org" <cota@braap.org>,
	"richard.henderson@linaro.org" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] establish nesting rule of BQL vs cpu-exclusive
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 17:56:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17c8bb30-1a22-b438-822a-a6a7f0ba5d36@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190805124744.GC9653@rkaganb.sw.ru>

On 05/08/19 14:47, Roman Kagan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:49:07PM +0000, Roman Kagan wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 01:22:33PM +0000, Roman Kagan wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:05:38AM +0000, Roman Kagan wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:31:16PM +0100, Alex Bennée wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I came across the following AB-BA deadlock:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     vCPU thread                             main thread
>>>>>>     -----------                             -----------
>>>>>> async_safe_run_on_cpu(self,
>>>>>>                       async_synic_update)
>>>>>> ...                                         [cpu hot-add]
>>>>>> process_queued_cpu_work()
>>>>>>   qemu_mutex_unlock_iothread()
>>>>>>                                             [grab BQL]
>>>>>>   start_exclusive()                         cpu_list_add()
>>>>>>   async_synic_update()                        finish_safe_work()
>>>>>>     qemu_mutex_lock_iothread()                  cpu_exec_start()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ATM async_synic_update seems to be the only async safe work item that
>>>>>> grabs BQL.  However it isn't quite obvious that it shouldn't; in the
>>>>>> past there were more examples of this (e.g.
>>>>>> memory_region_do_invalidate_mmio_ptr).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like the problem is generally in the lack of the nesting rule
>>>>>> for cpu-exclusive sections against BQL, so I thought I would try to
>>>>>> address that.  This patchset is my feeble attempt at this; I'm not sure
>>>>>> I fully comprehend all the consequences (rather, I'm sure I don't) hence
>>>>>> RFC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm I think this is an area touched by:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Subject: [PATCH v7 00/73] per-CPU locks
>>>>>   Date: Mon,  4 Mar 2019 13:17:00 -0500
>>>>>   Message-Id: <20190304181813.8075-1-cota@braap.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> which has stalled on it's path into the tree. Last time I checked it
>>>>> explicitly handled the concept of work that needed the BQL and work that
>>>>> didn't.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still trying to get my head around that patchset, but it looks like
>>>> it changes nothing in regards to cpu-exclusive sections and safe work,
>>>> so it doesn't make the problem go.
>>>>
>>>>> How do you trigger your deadlock? Just hot-pluging CPUs?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  The window is pretty narrow so I only saw it once although this
>>>> test (where the vms are started and stopped and the cpus are plugged in
>>>> and out) is in our test loop for quite a bit (probably 2+ years).
>>>>
>>>> Roman.
>>>
>>> ping?
>>
>> ping?
> 
> ping?
> 

Queued for 4.2.

Paolo


      reply	other threads:[~2019-08-05 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-23 10:54 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] establish nesting rule of BQL vs cpu-exclusive Roman Kagan
2019-05-23 10:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/2] cpus-common: nuke finish_safe_work Roman Kagan
2019-06-24 10:58   ` Alex Bennée
2019-06-24 11:50     ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-24 12:43       ` Alex Bennée
2019-05-23 10:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/2] cpus-common: assert BQL nesting within cpu-exclusive sections Roman Kagan
2019-05-23 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] establish nesting rule of BQL vs cpu-exclusive Alex Bennée
2019-05-27 11:05   ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-06 13:22     ` Roman Kagan
2019-06-21 12:49       ` Roman Kagan
2019-08-05 12:47         ` Roman Kagan
2019-08-05 15:56           ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]

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