From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Hubert Kario <hkario@redhat.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>,
libvirt-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
mik@miknet.net, jjaburek@redhat.com, sgrubb@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-rng and /dev/urandom
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 04:31:38 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1808605284.5070717.1460795498043.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FDF7A12D-B152-4641-B146-4AE83EF094D0@zytor.com>
> Also, I do not believe /dev/urandom is FIPS compliant. Finally, the refill
> policy is different, so it is not really true the algorithm is the same.
>
> All in all, other than a seed value it really doesn't make any sense. Of
> course, none of this matters on newer Intel hardware ;)
Right, but there's always the point about people that use heterogeneous
hosts and cannot pass rdrand/rdseed to the guest. For these, we should
add a QEMU driver that uses rdrand/rdseed, and thus decouples virtio-rng
from the host /dev/* completely.
>From the libvirt POV there are various possibilities:
- Libvirt can have a libvirt.conf parameter that says "ignore whatever is
specified in the guest XML if rdrand/rdseed is available, and instead use
rdrand/rdseed".
- Libvirt can allow specifying rdrand/rdseed _and_ an additional backend,
like this:
<backend model="cpu"/>
<backend model="random">/dev/random</backend>
and fallback to the second if rdrand/rdseed are not available.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-16 8:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-15 10:41 [Qemu-devel] RFC: virtio-rng and /dev/urandom Cole Robinson
2016-04-15 11:46 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-15 11:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Richard W.M. Jones
2016-04-20 22:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Steve Grubb
2016-04-15 15:47 ` Eric Blake
2016-04-15 16:10 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-16 0:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-16 0:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-16 8:31 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-04-18 0:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 0:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 11:21 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-18 11:00 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-19 11:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Yaniv Kaul
2016-04-15 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-15 16:06 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-18 9:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-18 9:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-18 11:07 ` Hubert Kario
2016-04-18 11:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-04-18 21:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-04-20 22:21 ` Cole Robinson
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