From: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>, qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, drjones@redhat.com,
Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
richard.henderson@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
eric.auger@redhat.com, shan.gavin@gmail.com,
Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, imammedo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] hw/arm/virt: Support for virtio-mem-pci
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:42:38 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18aa700f-e540-50f5-423a-717ef39d52d3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ae3f686-aaa9-4402-433e-325f422275df@redhat.com>
On 12/1/21 8:03 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * It has been passing the tests with various combinations like 64KB
>>>> and 4KB page sizes on host and guest, different memory device
>>>> backends like normal, transparent huge page and HugeTLB, plus
>>>> migration.
>>>
>>> Perfect. A note that hugetlbfs isn't fully supported/safe to use until
>>> we have preallocation support in QEMU (WIP).
>>>
>>
>> Yes, there is some warnings raised to enlarge 'request-size' on
>> host with 64KB page size. Note that the memory backends I used
>> in the testings always have "prealloc=on" property though.
>
> 1. prealloc=on
>
> "prealloc=on" on the memory backend won't get the job done, because the first
> thing virtio-mem does is discard all memory in the memory backend again when
> it initializes. So it's an expensive NOP :) See
>
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20211130104136.40927-9-david@redhat.com
>
> for the virtio-mem "prealloc=on" option that preallocates memory when
> exposing that memory to the VM.
>
> To use huge pages in a safe way with virtio-mem, we need "reserve=off" on the
> memory backend and "prealloc=on" on the virtio-mem device. (I'm in the process
> of documenting that on virtio-mem.gitlab.io/ to make it clearer)
>
David, I will reply in a different thread for discussion purpose only. I
need some time for the investigation :)
>
> 2. Warning on arm64 with 64k
>
> I assume the warning you're seeing is regarding the block-size:
>
> "Read unsupported THP size: ..." followed by
> "Could not detect THP size, falling back to ..."
>
> The right thing to do for now should be to remove that sanity check:
>
> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c
> index d5a578142b..33c32afeb1 100644
> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c
> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c
> @@ -78,11 +78,8 @@ static uint32_t virtio_mem_thp_size(void)
> if (g_file_get_contents(HPAGE_PMD_SIZE_PATH, &content, NULL, NULL) &&
> !qemu_strtou64(content, &endptr, 0, &tmp) &&
> (!endptr || *endptr == '\n')) {
> - /*
> - * Sanity-check the value, if it's too big (e.g., aarch64 with 64k base
> - * pages) or weird, fallback to something smaller.
> - */
> - if (!tmp || !is_power_of_2(tmp) || tmp > 16 * MiB) {
> + /* Sanity-check the value and fallback to something reasonable. */
> + if (!tmp || !is_power_of_2(tmp)) {
> warn_report("Read unsupported THP size: %" PRIx64, tmp);
> } else {
> thp_size = tmp;
>
> This will not affect setups we care about ( x86-64 KVM ).
>
> It will imply that with a arm64 64k host, we can only hot(un)plug in
> 512 MiB granularity when not using hugetlb witht he default block-size.
> However, that is already the case with arm64 64k guests as well.
> The suggestion will be to use arm64 4k with virtio-mem in the host and
> the guest for increased flexibility -- fortunately most distros
> already have performed the switch to 4k on arm64, so we don't really
> care IMHO.
>
> To support block_size < THP size when not using hugetlb,
> we'll have to disable THP (via MADV_NOHUGEPAGE) permanently for the memory
> region, also making sure that e.g., postcopy won't re-enable it by adding
> a proper flag (RAM_NOHUGEPAGE) to the RAMBlock. Because the issue is that
> once the guest touches some memory, we might populate a THP that would cover
> plugged and unplugged memory, which is bad.
>
> Instead of warning in virtio_mem_device_realize() when
> vmem->block_size < virtio_mem_default_block_size(rb)
> we'd have to disable THP.
>
>
> Further, we should fixup the default THP size on arm64 in case we're
> running on an older kernel where we cannot sense the THP size:
>
>
> diff --git a/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c b/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c
> index d5a578142b..371cee380a 100644
> --- a/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c
> +++ b/hw/virtio/virtio-mem.c
> @@ -38,13 +38,21 @@
> */
> #define VIRTIO_MEM_MIN_BLOCK_SIZE ((uint32_t)(1 * MiB))
>
> +static uint32_t virtio_mem_default_thp_size(void)
> +{
> +#if defined(__aarch64__)
> + if (qemu_real_host_page_size == 64 * KiB) {
> + return 512 * MiB;
> + }
> +#endif
> #if defined(__x86_64__) || defined(__arm__) || defined(__aarch64__) || \
> defined(__powerpc64__)
> -#define VIRTIO_MEM_DEFAULT_THP_SIZE ((uint32_t)(2 * MiB))
> + return 2 * MiB;
> #else
> - /* fallback to 1 MiB (e.g., the THP size on s390x) */
> -#define VIRTIO_MEM_DEFAULT_THP_SIZE VIRTIO_MEM_MIN_BLOCK_SIZE
> + /* fallback to 1 MiB (e.g., the THP size on s390x) */
> + return VIRTIO_MEM_MIN_BLOCK_SIZE;
> #endif
> +}
>
> /*
> * We want to have a reasonable default block size such that
> @@ -90,7 +98,7 @@ static uint32_t virtio_mem_thp_size(void)
> }
>
> if (!thp_size) {
> - thp_size = VIRTIO_MEM_DEFAULT_THP_SIZE;
> + thp_size = virtio_mem_default_thp_size();
> warn_report("Could not detect THP size, falling back to %" PRIx64
> " MiB.", thp_size / MiB);
> }
>
>
>
> In the context of proper arm64 support, adding the above two changes
> should be good enough. If you agree, can you include them in your v2
> series as a separate patch?
>
> Supporting block_size < thp_size when not using hugetlb is a different
> work IMHO, if someone ever cares about that.
>
>
Yeah, It's exactly the warnings I observed and I agree on the changes
except the 16KB-base-page-size case is missed. I've included all the
changes into separate patch in v2, which was just posted.
Thanks,
Gavin
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-03 3:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-30 0:33 [PATCH 0/1] hw/arm/virt: Support for virtio-mem-pci Gavin Shan
2021-11-30 0:33 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Gavin Shan
2021-11-30 9:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-01 5:09 ` Gavin Shan
2021-12-01 9:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-03 3:42 ` Gavin Shan [this message]
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