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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: yvugenfi@redhat.com, si-wei.liu@oracle.com,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>,
	Shannon Nelson <snelson@pensando.io>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] Prefer to use SVQ to stall dataplane at NIC state restore through CVQ
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:15:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <18f8d9c7-fa1d-7e45-82cc-7bd742ec18fd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJaqyWdkyX9Ha-kd+haqEpfXfpVhSLmRa5hkZZGkvZjrD4Ketg@mail.gmail.com>


在 2023/7/21 14:48, Eugenio Perez Martin 写道:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 8:15 PM Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@redhat.com> wrote:
>> At this moment the migration of net features that depends on CVQ is not
>> possible, as there is no reliable way to restore the device state like mac
>> address, number of enabled queues, etc to the destination.  This is mainly
>> caused because the device must only read CVQ, and process all the commands
>> before resuming the dataplane.
>>
>> This series uses the VirtIO feature _F_RING_RESET to achieve it, adding an
>> alternative method to late vq enabling proposed in [1][2].  It expose SVQ to
>> the device until it process all the CVQ messages, and then replaces the vring
>> for the guest's one.
>>
> A couple of things I forgot to add:
> * Assuming the implementation of _F_RING_RESET in vdpa is calling
> kernel vdpa ops .set_vq_ready(vq, false). I'm not sure if this is the
> best implementation, but it is currently unused in the kernel. At the
> same time, .set_vq_ready(vq, true) also enables the vq again.


I think we need another ops, as set_vq_ready() tends to be functional 
equivalent to queue_enable.

If we reuse set_vq_ready(vq, false), we would get conflict in the future 
when driver is allowed to stop/resume a specific virtqueue via setting 0 
to queue_enable. And that's also the reason why queue_enable is not 
resued to reset a virtqueue.


>
>> As an advantage, it uses a feature well deviced in the VirtIO standard.  As a
>> disadvantage, current HW already support the late enabling and it does not
>> support RING_RESET.
>>
>> This patch must be applied on top of the series ("Enable vdpa net migration
>> with features depending on CVQ") [1][2].
>>
>> The patch has been tested with vp_vdpa, but using high IOVA instead of a
>> sepparated ID for shadow CVQ and shadow temporal vrings.
>>
> And with _F_STATE implementation I sent long ago.
>
> Based on this, my suggestion is:
> * Leave the late enable for vDPA devices.
> * Make them fail if the vDPA parent device does not support it. This
> can be considered as a fix.
> * Leave _F_RING_RESET to be added on top, as the semantics are not
> implemented in vDPA at the moment.
>
> Would that work?


I think it can work, let's start from late enabling which seems 
lightweight than reset and see. We can leave the vp_vdpa to be done on 
top with another series.

Thanks


>
>> [1] Message-id: <20230706191227.835526-1-eperezma@redhat.com>
>> [2] https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2023-07/msg01325.html
>>
>> Eugenio Pérez (12):
>>    vhost: add vhost_reset_queue_op
>>    vhost: add vhost_restart_queue_op
>>    vhost_net: Use ops->vhost_restart_queue in vhost_net_virtqueue_restart
>>    vhost_net: Use ops->vhost_reset_queue in vhost_net_virtqueue_reset
>>    vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_set_vring_ready_internal
>>    vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_svq_stop
>>    vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_reset_queue
>>    vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_svq_start
>>    vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_restart_queue
>>    vdpa: enable all vqs if the device support RING_RESET feature
>>    vdpa: use SVQ to stall dataplane while NIC state is being restored
>>    vhost: Allow _F_RING_RESET with shadow virtqueue
>>
>>   include/hw/virtio/vhost-backend.h  |   6 ++
>>   hw/net/vhost_net.c                 |  16 ++--
>>   hw/virtio/vhost-shadow-virtqueue.c |   1 +
>>   hw/virtio/vhost-vdpa.c             | 139 +++++++++++++++++++++--------
>>   net/vhost-vdpa.c                   |  55 ++++++++++--
>>   hw/virtio/trace-events             |   2 +-
>>   6 files changed, 171 insertions(+), 48 deletions(-)
>>
>> --
>> 2.39.3
>>
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-25  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-20 18:14 [RFC PATCH 00/12] Prefer to use SVQ to stall dataplane at NIC state restore through CVQ Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] vhost: add vhost_reset_queue_op Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] vhost: add vhost_restart_queue_op Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] vhost_net: Use ops->vhost_restart_queue in vhost_net_virtqueue_restart Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-25  7:07   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] vhost_net: Use ops->vhost_reset_queue in vhost_net_virtqueue_reset Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-25  7:08   ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_set_vring_ready_internal Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_svq_stop Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_reset_queue Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-21 21:56   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-07-24 16:35     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_svq_start Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] vdpa: add vhost_vdpa_restart_queue Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] vdpa: enable all vqs if the device support RING_RESET feature Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] vdpa: use SVQ to stall dataplane while NIC state is being restored Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-21 22:58   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-07-24 19:59     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-07-25  3:48       ` Jason Wang
2023-07-20 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] vhost: Allow _F_RING_RESET with shadow virtqueue Eugenio Pérez
2023-07-21  6:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] Prefer to use SVQ to stall dataplane at NIC state restore through CVQ Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-07-25  7:15   ` Jason Wang [this message]
2023-07-27 12:53     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-07-27 13:05   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-27 15:23     ` Eugenio Perez Martin

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