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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, den@virtuozzo.com,
	andrey.drobyshev@virtuozzo.com, hreitz@redhat.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
	vsementsov@yandex-team.ru, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] block: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_reopen_queue_child()
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 15:41:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19ad4476-d56e-4f7c-9d45-067649d325ef@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCXd8MvDPnmKWiRI@redhat.com>

Am 15.05.25 um 14:28 schrieb Kevin Wolf:
> Am 15.05.2025 um 13:48 hat Fiona Ebner geschrieben:
>> Am 14.05.25 um 18:36 schrieb Kevin Wolf:
>>> Am 08.05.2025 um 16:09 hat Fiona Ebner geschrieben:
>>>> @@ -4368,6 +4368,7 @@ bdrv_reopen_queue_child(BlockReopenQueue *bs_queue, BlockDriverState *bs,
>>>>                          bool keep_old_opts)
>>>>  {
>>>>      assert(bs != NULL);
>>>> +    assert(qatomic_read(&bs->quiesce_counter) > 0);
>>>
>>> BlockDriverState.quiesce_counter isn't accessed with atomics elsewhere.
>>> Did you confuse it with BlockBackend.quiesce_counter?
>>
>> No, but I saw that it is modified via qatomic_fetch_inc/dec(). And those
>> modifications are in bdrv_do_drained_begin/end() which are
>> IO_OR_GS_CODE(). So isn't it more correct to read via atomics here?
> 
> Aha, I missed these two places. Looks like Paolo's commit 414c2ec wasn't
> very thorough with converting.
> 
> The commit message is also empty, so I don't know why we made this
> change. Both places are GLOBAL_STATE_CODE(), so I don't think we
> actually need atomics to synchronise these two places. Maybe there are
> other accesses in iothreads, but then those should have been using
> atomics, too.

AFAICT, all accesses are either in a function with GLOBAL_STATE_CODE()
directly or in a function with GRAPH_WRLOCK (in the cases of
bdrv_replace_child_tran() and bdrv_replace_child_noperm()).

This does not change for the new accesses added by the series here.

Back then, there was no GLOBAL_STATE_CODE() macro yet, so I suppose this
wasn't easy to verify.

>> The documentation in include/block/block_int-common.h for struct
>> BlockDriverState also states:
>>>     /* Accessed with atomic ops.  */
>>>     int quiesce_counter;
>>
>> Should I rather add a patch to have the other readers use atomics too?
> 
> Either all accesses should use atomics or none of them. I'm not
> completely sure which way is the right one. Using atomics everywhere is
> the safe option, but I'm not sure if we ever access quiesce_counter
> outside of the main thread.

I'd add a patch dropping the atomic accesses and document that
quiesce_counter can only be accessed in the main thread.

Best Regards,
Fiona



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-15 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-08 14:09 [RFC 00/11] do not drain while holding the graph lock Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 01/11] block: remove outdated comments about AioContext locking Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:22   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 02/11] block: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_reopen_queue_child() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:36   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 11:48     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-15 12:28       ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 13:41         ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 03/11] block/snapshot: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_snapshot_delete() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:52   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-15 12:03     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 04/11] block: drain while unlocked in bdrv_reopen_parse_file_or_backing() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 16:59   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 05/11] block: move drain outside of read-locked bdrv_inactivate_recurse() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 17:06   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 06/11] blockdev: drain while unlocked in internal_snapshot_action() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 17:26   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-19 12:37     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 07/11] blockdev: drain while unlocked in external_snapshot_action() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 08/11] block: mark bdrv_drained_begin() as GRAPH_UNLOCKED Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 17:50   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 09/11] block: move drain out of bdrv_change_aio_context() Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 19:45   ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 10/11] block/graph-lock: add drain flag to bdrv_graph_wr{, un}lock Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 19:54   ` [PATCH 10/11] block/graph-lock: add drain flag to bdrv_graph_wr{,un}lock Kevin Wolf
2025-05-19 12:10     ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-20  6:09       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-05-20  8:42         ` Kevin Wolf
2025-05-08 14:09 ` [PATCH 11/11] iotests/graph-changes-while-io: add test case with removal of lower snapshot Fiona Ebner
2025-05-14 20:14   ` Kevin Wolf

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