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From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"Chen, Jiqian" <Jiqian.Chen@amd.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@redhat.com>,
	"Gurchetan Singh" <gurchetansingh@chromium.org>,
	"Chia-I Wu" <olvaffe@gmail.com>,
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	"Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	"Koenig, Christian" <Christian.Koenig@amd.com>,
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	"Huang, Honglei1" <Honglei1.Huang@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [VIRTIO PCI PATCH v5 1/1] transport-pci: Add freeze_mode to virtio_pci_common_cfg
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:45:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a2537e9-b70c-0d85-20f5-e8ef5c8a9bb8@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB548118296F71CBD9158963B0DCF9A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>



On 9/20/2023 3:32 PM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>> From: Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 12:58 PM
>>
>> On 9/20/2023 3:10 PM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>>>> From: Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 12:37 PM
>>>>> The problem to overcome in [1] is, resume operation needs to be
>>>>> synchronous
>>>> as it involves large part of context to resume back, and hence just
>>>> asynchronously setting DRIVER_OK is not enough.
>>>>> The sw must verify back that device has resumed the operation and
>>>>> ready to
>>>> answer requests.
>>>> this is not live migration, all device status and other information
>>>> still stay in the device, no need to "resume" context, just resume running.
>>>>
>>> I am aware that it is not live migration. :)
>>>
>>> "Just resuming" involves lot of device setup task. The device implementation
>> does not know for how long a device is suspended.
>>> So for example, a VM is suspended for 6 hours, hence the device context
>> could be saved in a slow disk.
>>> Hence, when the resume is done, it needs to setup things again and driver got
>> to verify before accessing more from the device.
>> The restore procedures should perform by the hypervisor and done before set
>> DRIVER_OK and wake up the guest.
> Which is the signal to trigger the restore? Which is the trigger in physical device when there is no hypervisor?
>
> In my view, setting the DRIVER_OK is the signal regardless of hypervisor or physical device.
> Hence the re-read is must.
Yes, as I said below, should verify by re-read.
>
>> And the hypervisor/driver needs to check the device status by re-reading.
>>>> Like resume from a failed LM.
>>>>> This is slightly different flow than setting the DRIVER_OK for the
>>>>> first time
>>>> device initialization sequence as it does not involve large restoration.
>>>>> So, to merge two ideas, instead of doing DRIVER_OK to resume, the
>>>>> driver
>>>> should clear the SUSPEND bit and verify that it is out of SUSPEND.
>>>>> Because driver is still in _OK_ driving the device flipping the SUSPEND bit.
>>>> Please read the spec, it says:
>>>> The driver MUST NOT clear a device status bit
>>>>
>>> Yes, this is why either DRIER_OK validation by the driver is needed or Jiqian's
>> synchronous new register..
>> so re-read
> Yes. re-read until set, Thanks.
>



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20  7:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-19 11:42 [VIRTIO PCI PATCH v5 0/1] Add freeze_mode to virtio_pci_common_cfg Jiqian Chen
2023-09-19 11:42 ` [VIRTIO PCI PATCH v5 1/1] transport-pci: " Jiqian Chen
2023-09-19 12:10   ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-19 14:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-20  3:57     ` [virtio-dev] " Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  4:10       ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-19 12:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-20  4:56     ` Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  5:59     ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  6:33       ` [virtio-dev] " Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  6:58         ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  7:06           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  7:10             ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  7:27               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  7:32                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  7:45                   ` Zhu, Lingshan [this message]
2023-09-20  7:47                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  7:24             ` Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  7:30               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  7:35                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  7:47                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  7:51                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  7:55                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  7:53                     ` Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  7:56                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-20  8:18                         ` [virtio-comment] " Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  6:58         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-20  7:17           ` [virtio-comment] " Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-20  7:42             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-21  4:22   ` Jason Wang
2023-09-21  6:28     ` [virtio-dev] " Chen, Jiqian
2023-09-22  3:17       ` Jason Wang

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