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From: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
To: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	Daniel Henrique Barboza <danielhb413@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Jose Ricardo Ziviani" <joserz@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Sam Bobroff" <sbobroff@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Michael Roth" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@ozlabs.org>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	"Leonardo Augusto Guimarães Garcia" <lagarcia@br.ibm.com>,
	"Leonardo Bras" <leonardo@linux.ibm.com>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH qemu] spapr: Kill SLOF
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:13:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a8f9121a3cb85d415ff1c67a5379a717ad2b8e0.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5ed92e2a-4b9f-8092-cb67-8d94c3891e20@ozlabs.ru>

On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 13:34 +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> On 07/01/2020 20:39, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 12:55 +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > Petitboot kernel+initramdisk almost replaces SLOF + GRUB.
> > 
> > Is this necessarily a good thing?
> 
> The bare metal host and the powernv machine in QEMU do not use grub,
> they use petitboot which parses all grub configs and supports quite a lot.

How well does the distro integration work? Eg. if I change something
in /etc/default/grub and then run grub2-mkconfig, can I expect my
changes to be picked up? In which scenarios will that *not* work?

> Using Linux for a boot loader is not powerpc-only thing really, some
> folks do this too (forgot who, just heard this at the KVM forum).

While other options are available and some architectures use
something else entirely, GRUB is the de-facto standard across most
of the non-obscure architectures.

I guess the question is whether it's more important to be consistent
within the architecture or across them. I think the latter might be
preferable, especially when we consider what I think is the most
common scenario, that is, someone who's used to having GRUB on their
x86 machine running a ppc64 guest on the cloud. The more skills they
can automatically transfer over, the better.

> > Personally I quite like the fact
> > that I can use the same bootloader across x86, ppc64 and aarch64.
> 
> I am not suggesting removing SLOF soon

Perhaps the patch subject shouldn't be "kill SLOF" then? ;)

-- 
Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization



  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-13  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-03  7:44 [RFC PATCH qemu] spapr: Kill SLOF Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-01-05 23:38 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-01-06 14:15   ` Daniel Henrique Barboza
2020-01-07  1:55     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-01-07  9:39       ` Andrea Bolognani
2020-01-07 11:23         ` Thomas Huth
2020-01-14  9:04           ` Michal Suchánek
2020-01-08  2:34         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-01-13  9:13           ` Andrea Bolognani [this message]
2020-01-14  0:43             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-01-14  0:48             ` David Gibson

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