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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:51:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1aa4a32c-3816-1c8d-6722-b54c9f22fe09@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161019170148.GE2035@work-vm>



On 19/10/2016 19:01, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 18/10/2016 16:01, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I already use error_report's in places in migration threads of various
>>>>> types; I'm not sure if that's a problem.
>>> Unless those places are protected by the big qemu lock, that sounds
>>> not good. error_report calls into error_vprintf which checks the
>>> 'cur_mon' global "Monitor" pointer. This variable is updated at
>>> runtime - eg in qmp_human_monitor_command(), monitor_qmp_read(),
>>> monitor_read(), etc. So if migration threads outside the BQL are
>>> calling error_report() that could well cause problems. If you
>>> are lucky messages will merely end up going to stderr instead of
>>> the monitor, but in worst case I wouldn't be surprised if there
>>> is a crash possibility in some race conditions.
>>
>> Writes to chardevs *are* thread-safe (assuming qio_channel_create_watch
>> is thread-safe; it seems to be).
> 
> Hmm that's useful (although it doesn't solve error_report because error_vprintf
> is racy itself).

How is it racy?  Because of the case where cur_mon changes under the
feet of error_vprintf?  I guess that can be ignored for now (just a TODO
comment will do).

> How deadlock safe is it?  In particular imagine I've got another
> thread which is doing:
>   take bql
>      <many layers of stuff>
>      write to a chardev
>   release bql
> 
>   if that chardev is registered on the main thread, will that
> deadlock?

No, it won't.  Since your usecase is about the monitor, note that the
monitor does its own buffering; if the nonblocking write leaves stuff in
the buffer, the monitor will process the watch only after the BQL is
released by the thread.  However, there's no deadlock.

Paolo

>> Only reads aren't, in the sense that they require an event loop so they
>> use that event loop for serialization.
> 
> Hmm OK.
> 
> Dave
> 
>>
>> Paolo
> --
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-19 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 19:15 [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-12 20:02 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-13 15:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 11:32   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 11:41     ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 11:44       ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 12:01     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:25       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 13:35         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:52           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 14:01             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 18:53               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  7:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  8:00               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19  8:12                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  8:42                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  9:48                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 10:05                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 10:16                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 12:16                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 12:21                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 18:06                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:37                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  8:53                                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-20 10:45                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 16:56                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-21  9:12                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 21:06                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-24  7:07                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:35                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 16:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:55                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20  9:03                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  9:58                                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 10:42                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:01                                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 11:10                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:45                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:08                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:57                                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 17:56                                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:06                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:37                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:56                                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:45                                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 12:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-19 17:01                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 20:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-10-20  8:34                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:08   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18 12:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:43       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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