From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:51:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1aa4a32c-3816-1c8d-6722-b54c9f22fe09@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161019170148.GE2035@work-vm>
On 19/10/2016 19:01, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 18/10/2016 16:01, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I already use error_report's in places in migration threads of various
>>>>> types; I'm not sure if that's a problem.
>>> Unless those places are protected by the big qemu lock, that sounds
>>> not good. error_report calls into error_vprintf which checks the
>>> 'cur_mon' global "Monitor" pointer. This variable is updated at
>>> runtime - eg in qmp_human_monitor_command(), monitor_qmp_read(),
>>> monitor_read(), etc. So if migration threads outside the BQL are
>>> calling error_report() that could well cause problems. If you
>>> are lucky messages will merely end up going to stderr instead of
>>> the monitor, but in worst case I wouldn't be surprised if there
>>> is a crash possibility in some race conditions.
>>
>> Writes to chardevs *are* thread-safe (assuming qio_channel_create_watch
>> is thread-safe; it seems to be).
>
> Hmm that's useful (although it doesn't solve error_report because error_vprintf
> is racy itself).
How is it racy? Because of the case where cur_mon changes under the
feet of error_vprintf? I guess that can be ignored for now (just a TODO
comment will do).
> How deadlock safe is it? In particular imagine I've got another
> thread which is doing:
> take bql
> <many layers of stuff>
> write to a chardev
> release bql
>
> if that chardev is registered on the main thread, will that
> deadlock?
No, it won't. Since your usecase is about the monitor, note that the
monitor does its own buffering; if the nonblocking write leaves stuff in
the buffer, the monitor will process the watch only after the BQL is
released by the thread. However, there's no deadlock.
Paolo
>> Only reads aren't, in the sense that they require an event loop so they
>> use that event loop for serialization.
>
> Hmm OK.
>
> Dave
>
>>
>> Paolo
> --
> Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-19 20:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-12 19:15 [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-12 20:02 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-13 15:47 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 11:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 11:41 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 11:44 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 12:01 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 13:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:52 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 14:01 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 18:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 7:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 8:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 8:12 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 8:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 9:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 10:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 10:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 12:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 12:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 18:06 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 8:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 8:53 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-20 10:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 16:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-21 9:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 21:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-24 7:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 9:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 16:59 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 8:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 9:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 9:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 10:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 11:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 17:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21 9:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 9:37 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21 9:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 12:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-19 17:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 20:51 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-10-20 8:34 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18 12:13 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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