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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	p.fedin@samsung.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:01:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bf1ae78-88de-316f-5d1f-00a5e2fc9fc0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160914120943.GB24695@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>



On 14/09/2016 14:09, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 05:33:09AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:53:36AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13/09/2016 16:50, Brijesh Singh wrote:
>>>> In SEV-enabled guest dma should be performed on shared pages. Since
>>>> the SeaBIOS executes in non PAE mode and does not have access to C-bit
>>>> to create a shared page hence disable the dma operation when reading
>>>> from fw_cfg interface.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  hw/nvram/fw_cfg.c |    6 ++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/hw/nvram/fw_cfg.c b/hw/nvram/fw_cfg.c
>>>> index 6a68e59..aca99e9 100644
>>>> --- a/hw/nvram/fw_cfg.c
>>>> +++ b/hw/nvram/fw_cfg.c
>>>> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>>>>  #include "qemu/osdep.h"
>>>>  #include "hw/hw.h"
>>>>  #include "sysemu/sysemu.h"
>>>> +#include "sysemu/kvm.h"
>>>>  #include "sysemu/dma.h"
>>>>  #include "hw/boards.h"
>>>>  #include "hw/isa/isa.h"
>>>> @@ -1009,6 +1010,11 @@ static void fw_cfg_io_realize(DeviceState *dev, Error **errp)
>>>>      FWCfgIoState *s = FW_CFG_IO(dev);
>>>>      SysBusDevice *sbd = SYS_BUS_DEVICE(dev);
>>>>  
>>>> +    /* disable dma on fw_cfg when SEV is enabled */
>>>> +    if (kvm_sev_enabled()) {
>>>> +        qdev_prop_set_bit(dev, "dma_enabled", false);
>>>> +    }
>>>> +
>>>>      /* when using port i/o, the 8-bit data register ALWAYS overlaps
>>>>       * with half of the 16-bit control register. Hence, the total size
>>>>       * of the i/o region used is FW_CFG_CTL_SIZE */
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> As Michael said, a workaround is possible using -global.  However, I
>>> really think that SEV should be implemented in UEFI firmware.  Because
>>> it runs in 64-bit mode, it would be able to run in paged mode and it
>>> would not have to encrypt everything before the SEV launch command.
>>>
>>> For example secure boot can be used to authenticate the kernel against
>>> keys provided by the owner in encrypted flash, or GRUB2 can be placed in
>>> the firmware by the owner and used to boot from a LUKS-encrypted /boot
>>> partition.
>>>
>>> Paolo
>>
>> Frankly I don't understand why do you need to mess with boot at all.
>> Quoting the cover letter:
>>
>> 	SEV is designed to protect guest VMs from a benign but vulnerable
>> 	(i.e. not fully malicious) hypervisor. In particular, it reduces the
>> 	attack
>> 	surface of guest VMs and can prevent certain types of VM-escape bugs
>> 	(e.g. hypervisor read-anywhere) from being used to steal guest data.
>>
>> it seems highly unlikely that any secret data is used during boot.
>> So just let guest boot normally, and encrypt afterwards.
> 
> After boot seems too late for the attestation part (see Section
> 1.3.1: Launch in the spec), unless you can ensure the memory
> contents will always be exactly what the guest owner expects
> after every boot.

And the attestation is what lets the guest check that the memory
contents are indeed what the guest owner expects.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-13 14:46 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 00/22] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 01/22] exec: add guest RAM read/write ops Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 02/22] cpu-common: add debug version of physical memory read/write Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 03/22] monitor: use debug version of physical memory read api Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 04/22] memattrs: add SEV debug attrs Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 20:30     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 05/22] i386: add new option to enable SEV guest Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 22:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  8:41     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14  9:11       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 06/22] sev: add initial SEV support Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 15:58   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-13 19:54     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 20:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 22:00       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14  8:30         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 11:54           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 11:58             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 16:10         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 16:13           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 16:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 18:46             ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 20:23               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14  8:37   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-13 14:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 07/22] sev: add SEV launch start command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 08/22] sev: add SEV launch update command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 09/22] sev: add SEV launch finish command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 22:15   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 10/22] sev: add SEV debug decrypt command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14  2:28   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14  8:57     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 13:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:07         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 13:23           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 13:32             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:37               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 13:50                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 14:08                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 14:14                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 14:38                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 15:17                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 14:15                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 14:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 15:06                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-14 15:46                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 17:35                           ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 22:05                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-15 14:58                               ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 13:27           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] virtio_pci: Limit DMA mask to 44 bits for legacy virtio devices Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:36     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 10/22] sev: add SEV debug decrypt command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 13:48       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 14:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 15:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 16:53             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 18:15               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 18:45                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 19:24                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 19:58                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 20:36                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 20:44                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:25                           ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 21:38                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 11/22] sev: add SEV debug encrypt command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 12/22] sev: add SEV guest status command Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 13/22] hmp: update 'info kvm' to display SEV status Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 16:09   ` Eric Blake
2016-09-14 16:16     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-15  4:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 23:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 14/22] sev: provide SEV-enabled guest RAM read/write ops Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 15/22] i386: sev: register RAM read/write ops for BIOS and PC.RAM region Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 20:59     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 21:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:47         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 21:52           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 22:06             ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 22:17               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 22:26                 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-15 14:13                 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-15 15:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 17/22] target-i386: add cpuid Fn8000_001f Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:20     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 16:24       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 18:21       ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 18/22] i386: clear C-bit in SEV guest page table walk Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 19/22] exec: set debug attribute in SEV-enabled guest Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 23:06   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-13 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 18:39   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 20:46     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 20:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 22:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  2:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14  8:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 18:00         ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode Message-ID: <20160921205731-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 12:09       ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 20/22] fw_cfg: sev: disable dma in real mode Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 13:01         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-09-14 13:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 13:51             ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-14 16:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 17:25                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-21 18:03         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-21 18:19           ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 21/22] hw: add pre and post system reset callback Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 22:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 16:19     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 14:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 22/22] loader: reload bios image on ROM reset in SEV-enabled guest Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 18:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-13 22:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  2:38     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 20:29     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-14 20:38       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:09         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-14 21:11           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14 21:24         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 00/22] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Eduardo Habkost
     [not found] ` <147377816978.11859.942423377333907417.stgit@brijesh-build-machine>
2016-09-13 18:37   ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 16/22] i386: pc: load OS images at fixed location in SEV-enabled guest Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-09-21 15:55     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 15:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-21 16:08         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 16:17           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-14  2:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v1 00/22] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Michael S. Tsirkin

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