From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH 14/17] block: optimize access to reqs_lock
Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 12:45:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bf3079d-3af5-ffa9-c074-660b77874ff7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170505102550.GA11350@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
On 05/05/2017 12:25, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 06:06:39PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 04/05/2017 16:59, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 02:00:55PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> Hot path reqs_lock critical sections are very small; the only large critical
>>>> sections happen when a request waits for serialising requests, and these
>>>> should never happen in usual circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> We do not want these small critical sections to yield in any case,
>>>> which calls for using a spinlock while writing the list.
>>>
>>> Is this patch purely an optimization?
>>
>> Yes, it is, and pretty much a no-op until we have true multiqueue. But
>> I expect it to have a significant effect for multiqueue.
>>
>>> I'm hesitant about using spinlocks in userspace. There are cases where
>>> the thread is descheduled that are beyond our control. Nested virt will
>>> probably make things worse. People have been optimizing and trying
>>> paravirt approaches to kernel spinlocks for these reasons for years.
>>
>> This is true, but here we're talking about a 5-10 instruction window for
>> preemption; it matches the usage of spinlocks in other parts of QEMU.
>
> Only util/qht.c uses spinlocks, it's not a widely used primitive.
Right, but the idea is the same---very short, heavy and
performance-critical cases use spinlocks. (util/qht.c is used heavily
in TCG mode).
>> It is efficient when there is no contention, but when there is, the
>> latency goes up by several orders of magnitude.
>
> Doesn't glibc spin for a while before waiting on the futex? i.e. the
> best of both worlds.
You have to specify that manually with pthread_mutexattr_settype(...,
PTHRED_MUTEX_ADAPTIVE_NP). It is not enabled by default because IIUC
the adaptive one doesn't support pthread_mutex_timedlock.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-05 10:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-20 12:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for 2.10 00/17] Block layer thread safety, part 1 Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] block: access copy_on_read with atomic ops Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 11:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-05-04 11:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] block: access quiesce_counter " Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 12:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] block: access io_limits_disabled " Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 12:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] block: access serialising_in_flight " Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 12:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] block: access wakeup " Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 6:39 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 7:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 12:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] block: access io_plugged " Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 12:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] throttle-groups: do not use qemu_co_enter_next Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 13:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] throttle-groups: protect throttled requests with a CoMutex Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 6:57 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 13:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] util: add stats64 module Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 7:19 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 7:36 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 7:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Roman Kagan
2017-05-04 9:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] block: use Stat64 for wr_highest_offset Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 14:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] block: access write_gen with atomics Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] block: protect tracked_requests and flush_queue with reqs_lock Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 7:30 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 8:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] coroutine-lock: introduce qemu_co_mutex_lock_unlock Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 7:39 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 9:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 9:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 14:12 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-05-04 16:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] block: optimize access to reqs_lock Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-05-04 16:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-05 10:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-05-05 10:45 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-05-08 16:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-05-08 16:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] block: introduce dirty_bitmap_mutex Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 7:55 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 9:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] block: protect modification of dirty bitmaps with a mutex Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-20 14:42 ` Eric Blake
2017-05-04 8:05 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-04 10:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-05 10:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-05-05 10:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-08 16:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] block: make accounting thread-safe Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-05 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 12:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for 2.10 00/17] Block layer thread safety, part 1 no-reply
2017-04-20 12:42 ` no-reply
2017-05-02 15:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-05-04 8:09 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-05 13:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
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