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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	BALATON Zoltan <balaton@eik.bme.hu>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] trace: document how to specify multiple --trace patterns
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 18:08:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1cd6e449-cdde-adf6-a3ef-b2e95cd04add@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b06344f0-892f-4ff0-782f-1d55862a2c2b@redhat.com>

On 1/13/21 5:15 PM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 1/13/21 3:42 PM, John Snow wrote:
>> On 1/13/21 4:48 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>> QEMU options are single dash with double dash accepted for
>>>> compatibility but
>>>> help and other docs have single dash so these (and below) should be
>>>> -trace.
>>>> (Also a bit less typing for otherwise already way too long command
>>>> lines.)
>>> Is this documented somewhere?
>>>
>>> I was under the impression that '-' is legacy syntax and '--' is the
>>> preferred syntax. There are examples of '--' on the QEMU man page.
> 
> Historically, uses of 'getopt_long()' support only double dash, while
> 'getopt_long_only()' support both single and double.  While qemu does
> not use getopt_long_only() (because it rolls its own parser instead), it
> certainly tries to behave as if it does.  Meanwhile, our other tools
> like qemu-img or qemu-storage-daemon use getopt_long().  I'm in favor of
> preferring the double-dash in documentation, even when single-dash
> works, especially for any option (like --trace) that is used for more
> tools than just qemu proper, because it makes for easier copy-paste
> between options that work for all tools in the qemu suite rather than
> just qemu.
> 

Yes, this makes sense.

>>>
>>> Let's reach agreement, document it, and then make the documentation
>>> consistent.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>
>> My naive impression was that double-dash is the preferred idiom in
>> linuxdom in general for any multi-character option.
>>
>> We might hang on to single-dash for backwards compatibility, but I doubt
>> we want to enshrine that as our preferred way.
>>
>> Is there a reasoning I am unaware of?
> 
> Continuing to document '-machine' instead of '--machine' for qemu is
> debatable because we don't support 'qemu-img --machine' or
> 'qemu-storage-daemon --machine'; but since 'qemu-img -trace' is an error
> while 'qemu-img --trace' works, I'm definitely in favor of preferring
> '--trace' everywhere in our docs.
> 

At that point, it's a guessing game as to which binaries support which 
flags and using which spellings -- maybe some will pick up new flags 
later and so on.

Skip the fuss and just insist on the double dash, I think.

--js



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-13 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-12 16:58 [PATCH 0/2] trace: documentation improvements Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-12 16:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] trace: document how to specify multiple --trace patterns Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-12 18:50   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-12 20:44   ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-01-13  9:48     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]       ` <afd6945e-2666-1b80-70c8-27564cf5ac5@eik.bme.hu>
2021-01-13 14:15         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-02-15 11:39           ` Kevin Wolf
2021-01-13 21:42       ` John Snow
2021-01-13 22:15         ` Eric Blake
2021-01-13 23:08           ` John Snow [this message]
2021-01-13 23:45             ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-01-14  0:20               ` John Snow
2021-01-14 14:02                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-14 14:18                   ` BALATON Zoltan
2021-01-14 16:44                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-19 16:31                     ` Eric Blake
2021-02-01 11:22                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-01-14 17:22                   ` John Snow
2021-01-12 16:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] trace: update docs with meson build information Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-02-01 11:23 ` [PATCH 0/2] trace: documentation improvements Stefan Hajnoczi

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