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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: famz@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mreitz@redhat.com, Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:24:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d5a5355-344e-7029-f7d7-ddb52c65651a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cdde651-acdc-e6eb-63fc-e7efe8136710@redhat.com>

On 07/26/2018 10:23 AM, Eric Blake wrote:

> 
> Hmm - that thread also mentions FALLOC_FL_NO_HIDE_STALE, which is a new 
> flag not present/documented on Fedora 28. I wonder if it helps, too.

Even more odd - that flag has been proposed to the kernel since 2012 but 
still not mentioned in the F28 man page:

https://lwn.net/Articles/492920/

and that its use on block devices is much more recent, just last month:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1LV2Y06XnjkJ:https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10466183/+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1

but now that I've read that, it makes total sense that the combination 
PUNCH_HOLE|NO_HIDE_STALE is explicitly asking for semantics of "discard 
as fast as possible regardless of whatever later reads will see", while 
plain PUNCH_HOLE means "guarantee that I can read zeroes, using the 
fastest means possible [discard, if that works]"

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-26 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-26 11:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-3.0] file-posix: Fix write_zeroes with unmap on block devices Kevin Wolf
2018-07-26 14:28 ` Eric Blake
2018-07-26 15:06   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Nir Soffer
2018-07-26 15:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2018-07-26 15:23     ` Eric Blake
2018-07-26 15:33       ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-26 16:10         ` Eric Blake
2018-07-26 16:46           ` Nir Soffer
2018-07-26 16:58             ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-26 17:34               ` Nir Soffer
2018-07-26 18:00                 ` Eric Blake
2018-07-26 18:09                 ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-26 18:24       ` Eric Blake [this message]
2018-07-26 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Nir Soffer
2018-07-26 16:41   ` Kevin Wolf
2018-07-26 16:54     ` Nir Soffer

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