From: Jonah Palmer <jonah.palmer@oracle.com>
To: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>,
Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] iova_tree: add an id member to DMAMap
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 07:19:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1e1cbe99-65e8-4292-b19b-8e054f5b1fca@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJaqyWeyfPp5bh9iZrkwZshoStEHZ85P6t4TcEdmR5sDYhG4ug@mail.gmail.com>
On 4/29/24 4:14 AM, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:44 PM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/2024 12:33 AM, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:21 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/22/2024 1:49 AM, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 1:50 AM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/19/2024 1:29 AM, Eugenio Perez Martin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:46 PM Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/10/2024 3:03 AM, Eugenio Pérez wrote:
>>>>>>>>> IOVA tree is also used to track the mappings of virtio-net shadow
>>>>>>>>> virtqueue. This mappings may not match with the GPA->HVA ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This causes a problem when overlapped regions (different GPA but same
>>>>>>>>> translated HVA) exists in the tree, as looking them by HVA will return
>>>>>>>>> them twice. To solve this, create an id member so we can assign unique
>>>>>>>>> identifiers (GPA) to the maps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Eugenio Pérez <eperezma@redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> include/qemu/iova-tree.h | 5 +++--
>>>>>>>>> util/iova-tree.c | 3 ++-
>>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/qemu/iova-tree.h b/include/qemu/iova-tree.h
>>>>>>>>> index 2a10a7052e..34ee230e7d 100644
>>>>>>>>> --- a/include/qemu/iova-tree.h
>>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/qemu/iova-tree.h
>>>>>>>>> @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@ typedef struct DMAMap {
>>>>>>>>> hwaddr iova;
>>>>>>>>> hwaddr translated_addr;
>>>>>>>>> hwaddr size; /* Inclusive */
>>>>>>>>> + uint64_t id;
>>>>>>>>> IOMMUAccessFlags perm;
>>>>>>>>> } QEMU_PACKED DMAMap;
>>>>>>>>> typedef gboolean (*iova_tree_iterator)(DMAMap *map);
>>>>>>>>> @@ -100,8 +101,8 @@ const DMAMap *iova_tree_find(const IOVATree *tree, const DMAMap *map);
>>>>>>>>> * @map: the mapping to search
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> * Search for a mapping in the iova tree that translated_addr overlaps with the
>>>>>>>>> - * mapping range specified. Only the first found mapping will be
>>>>>>>>> - * returned.
>>>>>>>>> + * mapping range specified and map->id is equal. Only the first found
>>>>>>>>> + * mapping will be returned.
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> * Return: DMAMap pointer if found, or NULL if not found. Note that
>>>>>>>>> * the returned DMAMap pointer is maintained internally. User should
>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/util/iova-tree.c b/util/iova-tree.c
>>>>>>>>> index 536789797e..0863e0a3b8 100644
>>>>>>>>> --- a/util/iova-tree.c
>>>>>>>>> +++ b/util/iova-tree.c
>>>>>>>>> @@ -97,7 +97,8 @@ static gboolean iova_tree_find_address_iterator(gpointer key, gpointer value,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> needle = args->needle;
>>>>>>>>> if (map->translated_addr + map->size < needle->translated_addr ||
>>>>>>>>> - needle->translated_addr + needle->size < map->translated_addr) {
>>>>>>>>> + needle->translated_addr + needle->size < map->translated_addr ||
>>>>>>>>> + needle->id != map->id) {
>>>>>>>> It looks this iterator can also be invoked by SVQ from
>>>>>>>> vhost_svq_translate_addr() -> iova_tree_find_iova(), where guest GPA
>>>>>>>> space will be searched on without passing in the ID (GPA), and exact
>>>>>>>> match for the same GPA range is not actually needed unlike the mapping
>>>>>>>> removal case. Could we create an API variant, for the SVQ lookup case
>>>>>>>> specifically? Or alternatively, add a special flag, say skip_id_match to
>>>>>>>> DMAMap, and the id match check may look like below:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (!needle->skip_id_match && needle->id != map->id)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think vhost_svq_translate_addr() could just call the API variant or
>>>>>>>> pass DMAmap with skip_id_match set to true to svq_iova_tree_find_iova().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you're totally right. But I'd really like to not complicate
>>>>>>> the API of the iova_tree more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we can look for the hwaddr using memory_region_from_host and
>>>>>>> then get the hwaddr. It is another lookup though...
>>>>>> Yeah, that will be another means of doing translation without having to
>>>>>> complicate the API around iova_tree. I wonder how the lookup through
>>>>>> memory_region_from_host() may perform compared to the iova tree one, the
>>>>>> former looks to be an O(N) linear search on a linked list while the
>>>>>> latter would be roughly O(log N) on an AVL tree?
>>>>> Even worse, as the reverse lookup (from QEMU vaddr to SVQ IOVA) is
>>>>> linear too. It is not even ordered.
>>>> Oh Sorry, I misread the code and I should look for g_tree_foreach ()
>>>> instead of g_tree_search_node(). So the former is indeed linear
>>>> iteration, but it looks to be ordered?
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/GNOME/glib/blob/main/glib/gtree.c*L1115__;Iw!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Ng2rLfRd9tLyNTNocW50Mf5AcxSt0uF0wOdv120djff-z_iAdbujYK-jMi5UC1DZLxb1yLUv2vV0j3wJo8o$
>>> The GPA / IOVA are ordered but we're looking by QEMU's vaddr.
>>>
>>> If we have these translations:
>>> [0x1000, 0x2000] -> [0x10000, 0x11000]
>>> [0x2000, 0x3000] -> [0x6000, 0x7000]
>>>
>>> We will see them in this order, so we cannot stop the search at the first node.
>> Yeah, reverse lookup is unordered indeed, anyway.
>>
>>>
>>>>> But apart from this detail you're right, I have the same concerns with
>>>>> this solution too. If we see a hard performance regression we could go
>>>>> to more complicated solutions, like maintaining a reverse IOVATree in
>>>>> vhost-iova-tree too. First RFCs of SVQ did that actually.
>>>> Agreed, yeap we can use memory_region_from_host for now. Any reason why
>>>> reverse IOVATree was dropped, lack of users? But now we have one!
>>>>
>>> No, it is just simplicity. We already have an user in the hot patch in
>>> the master branch, vhost_svq_vring_write_descs. But I never profiled
>>> enough to find if it is a bottleneck or not to be honest.
>> Right, without vIOMMU or a lot of virtqueues / mappings, it's hard to
>> profile and see the difference.
>>>
>>> I'll send the new series by today, thank you for finding these issues!
>> Thanks! In case you don't have bandwidth to add back reverse IOVA tree,
>> Jonah (cc'ed) may have interest in looking into it.
>>
>
> Actually, yes. I've tried to solve it using:
> memory_region_get_ram_ptr -> It's hard to get this pointer to work
> without messing a lot with IOVATree.
> memory_region_find -> I'm totally unable to make it return sections
> that make sense
> flatview_for_each_range -> It does not return the same
> MemoryRegionsection as the listener, not sure why.
>
> The only advance I have is that memory_region_from_host is able to
> tell if the vaddr is from the guest or not.
>
> So I'm convinced there must be a way to do it with the memory
> subsystem, but I think the best way to do it ATM is to store a
> parallel tree with GPA-> SVQ IOVA translations. At removal time, if we
> find the entry in this new tree, we can directly remove it by GPA. If
> not, assume it is a host-only address like SVQ vrings, and remove by
> iterating on vaddr as we do now. It is guaranteed the guest does not
> translate to that vaddr and that that vaddr is unique in the tree
> anyway.
>
> Does it sound reasonable? Jonah, would you be interested in moving this forward?
>
> Thanks!
>
Sure, I'd be more than happy to work on this stuff! I can probably get
started on this either today or tomorrow.
Si-Wei mentioned something about these "reverse IOVATree" patches that
were dropped; is this relevant to what you're asking here? Is it
something I should base my work off of?
If there's any other relevant information about this issue that you
think I should know, let me know. I'll start digging into this ASAP and
will reach out if I need any guidance. :)
Jonah
>> -Siwei
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Siwei
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course,
>>>>>> memory_region_from_host() won't search out of the guest memory space for
>>>>>> sure. As this could be on the hot data path I have a little bit
>>>>>> hesitance over the potential cost or performance regression this change
>>>>>> could bring in, but maybe I'm overthinking it too much...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> -Siwei
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> -Siwei
>>>>>>>>> return false;
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-29 11:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-10 10:03 [RFC 0/2] Identify aliased maps in vdpa SVQ iova_tree Eugenio Pérez
2024-04-10 10:03 ` [RFC 1/2] iova_tree: add an id member to DMAMap Eugenio Pérez
2024-04-18 20:46 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-04-19 8:29 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-04-19 23:49 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-04-22 8:49 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-04-23 22:20 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-04-24 7:33 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-04-25 17:43 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-04-29 8:14 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-04-29 11:19 ` Jonah Palmer [this message]
2024-04-30 18:11 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-01 22:08 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-05-02 6:18 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-07 9:12 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-04-30 5:54 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-04-30 17:19 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-01 23:13 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-05-02 6:44 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-08 0:52 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-05-08 15:25 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-04-10 10:03 ` [RFC 2/2] vdpa: identify aliased maps in iova_tree Eugenio Pérez
2024-04-12 6:46 ` [RFC 0/2] Identify aliased maps in vdpa SVQ iova_tree Jason Wang
2024-04-12 7:56 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-07 7:29 ` Jason Wang
2024-05-07 10:56 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-08 2:29 ` Jason Wang
2024-05-08 17:15 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-09 6:27 ` Jason Wang
2024-05-09 7:10 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-10 4:28 ` Jason Wang
2024-05-10 7:16 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-11 4:00 ` Jason Wang
2024-05-13 6:27 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-13 8:28 ` Jason Wang
2024-05-13 9:56 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-05-14 3:56 ` Jason Wang
2024-07-24 16:59 ` Jonah Palmer
2024-07-29 10:04 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-07-29 17:50 ` Jonah Palmer
2024-07-29 18:20 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-07-29 19:33 ` Jonah Palmer
2024-07-30 8:47 ` Jason Wang
2024-07-30 11:00 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-07-30 12:31 ` Jonah Palmer
2024-07-31 9:56 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-07-31 14:09 ` Jonah Palmer
2024-08-01 0:41 ` Si-Wei Liu
2024-08-01 8:22 ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2024-08-02 5:54 ` Si-Wei Liu
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