From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_INVALID, DKIM_SIGNED,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59454C4742C for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 14:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E498022453 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 14:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="ivWGW+5I" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E498022453 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Received: from localhost ([::1]:58014 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZb5u-0005Pd-V2 for qemu-devel@archiver.kernel.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZb3P-0002XL-1x for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 09:43:27 -0500 Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com ([63.128.21.124]:29800) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZb3M-0005HJ-LA for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 09:43:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1604328203; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=uMJyMLR8bzMjkhrz4nctbrOQnqiLE2LuBjtPv4FjSgY=; b=ivWGW+5IYx+HbkwPjDpJCZEC6B1rLiPuRZ0q1CUZM73A+/6XSXB62JBi/GO7nFPPkKPN/C RW2q5D8vgmbBid2Uch0S24UelyKpBIQDt1IU4D3LH8uEri4deWpXV0JlfWHobDAxzLZZnM Kszaes2noW+H1YvHBPIjhr+TUDOlE7U= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-364-m6VXwMUyO02j5qATvrtUHA-1; Mon, 02 Nov 2020 09:43:19 -0500 X-MC-Unique: m6VXwMUyO02j5qATvrtUHA-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9698264169; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 14:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.3.113.41] (ovpn-113-41.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.41]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D58F91A4D6; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 14:42:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Migrating to the gitlab issue tracker To: =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2e_Berrang=c3=a9?= , Laszlo Ersek References: <20201030091636.GD307361@stefanha-x1.localdomain> <62284d4e-ccd6-08b4-6cd4-0a5795488996@redhat.com> <20201102142645.GE138796@redhat.com> From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. Message-ID: <1e4edd94-fc8d-2e1f-aeeb-ec81a8089d38@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 08:42:05 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201102142645.GE138796@redhat.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=eblake@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=63.128.21.124; envelope-from=eblake@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/02 03:02:24 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Corey Minyard , Ronnie Sahlberg , Jeff Cody , Yuval Shaia , Markus Armbruster , KONRAD Frederic , Klaus Jensen , Alberto Garcia , zhanghailiang , Ben Warren , =?UTF-8?Q?Alex_Benn=c3=a9e?= , Halil Pasic , Kamil Rytarowski , =?UTF-8?Q?Herv=c3=a9_Poussineau?= , Anthony Perard , Samuel Thibault , Jason Wang , Brad Smith , Laurent Vivier , Jiri Pirko , Eduardo Habkost , Xie Changlong , Riku Voipio , Peter Lieven , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Beniamino Galvani , Alexander Bulekov , Alex Williamson , Stefan Hajnoczi , John Snow , Aarushi Mehta , Richard Henderson , Kevin Wolf , Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy , Ed Maste , Chris Wulff , Laurent Vivier , Coiby Xu , Subbaraya Sundeep , Stefan Berger , Igor Mammedov , Gerd Hoffmann , Fam Zheng , Peter Maydell , Anup Patel , Matthew Rosato , David Hildenbrand , Michael Tokarev , Thomas Huth , Max Filippov , Su Hang , Alistair Francis , "Denis V. 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Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 02:57:49PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote: >> On 10/30/20 10:16, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 12:01:27PM -0400, John Snow wrote: >>>> In experimenting with my mirror on gitlab though, I was unable to find a way >>>> to configure it to send issue tracker notifications to the email list. A >>>> move to gitlab would likely mean, then: >>>> >>>> 1. The cessation of (automatic) issue tracker mails to the list >>> >>> A bot could do this. >> >> I think a "bug traffic" mailing list (possibly but not necessarily >> separate from the main qemu development list) is important. > > What benefit is there to a bug traffic mailing list, as opposed to people > subscribing to direct bug notifications ? In both case people who are > interested in watching bugs can get the same content in their inboxes. A mailing list would have archives (which can be helpful for archaeology of past bug traffic even when you were not a gitlab subscriber), and (depending on subscription settings) could permit additional conversation in response to traffic by non-gitlab contributors. But you are right that a mailing list configured as read-only bug traffic (where replies are not permitted) has no benefit over developers directly subscribing to bug activity. -- Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. +1-919-301-3226 Virtualization: qemu.org | libvirt.org