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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Berrange <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Laurent Vivier <laurent@vivier.eu>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@xilinx.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] hw/core/null-machine: Add the possibility to instantiate a CPU, RAM and kernel
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 14:10:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ed26b63-985f-0a68-dd19-e3c2a665b4e0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170117123217.GF3491@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>

On 17.01.2017 13:32, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 01:03:11PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> Sometimes it is useful to have just a machine with CPU and RAM, without
>> any further hardware in it, e.g. if you just want to do some instruction
>> debugging for TCG with a remote GDB attached to QEMU, or run some embedded
>> code with the "-semihosting" QEMU parameter. qemu-system-m68k already
>> features a "dummy" machine, and xtensa a "sim" machine for exactly this
>> purpose.
>> All target architectures have nowadays also a "none" machine, which would
>> be a perfect match for this, too - but it currently does not allow to add
>> CPU, RAM or a kernel yet. Thus let's add these possibilities in a generic
>> way to the "none" machine, too, so that we hopefully do not need additional
>> "dummy" machines in the future anymore (and maybe can also get rid of the
>> already existing "dummy"/"sim" machines one day).
>> Note that the default behaviour of the "none" machine is not changed, i.e.
>> no CPU and no RAM is instantiated by default. You've explicitely got to
>> specify the CPU model with "-cpu" and the amount of RAM with "-m" to get
>> these new features.
>> We also introduce a wrapper called cpu_init_def() for the target-specific
>> macro cpu_init() in cpus.c here, so we can continue to compile the file
>> null-machine.c independently from the target.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
>> ---
>>  v2:
>>  - Use the generic-loader device for providing the functionality of
>>    the "-kernel" parameter
> 
> Peter argued in v1 against providing a -kernel option that
> doesn't have the same capabilities as the other machines in the
> same architecture (I will continue the discussion there).

I'd prefer to use the generic loader for -kernel, but yes, let's
continue that discussion in the other thread.

>>  - Make sure that null-machine.c can be compiled independent from the
>>    target (by introducing a wrapper function for cpu_init())
> 
> Most (or all?) architectures should work if you use
> cpu_generic_init(). I wonder how many architectures don't use
> cpu_generic_init() to implement cpu_init() yet.

I wanted to use cpu_generic_init() first, but that does not work for
machine "none", since that function needs a "typename" parameter beside
the "cpu_model", and I don't see any way to get hold of the correct
string for that typename parameter in generic code like null-machine.c.
Do you see any possibility to do that here?

>>
>>  cpus.c                 |  5 +++++
>>  hw/core/null-machine.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>  include/qom/cpu.h      | 11 +++++++++++
>>  3 files changed, 54 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/cpus.c b/cpus.c
>> index 5213351..7c4dc38 100644
>> --- a/cpus.c
>> +++ b/cpus.c
>> @@ -80,6 +80,11 @@ static unsigned int throttle_percentage;
>>  #define CPU_THROTTLE_PCT_MAX 99
>>  #define CPU_THROTTLE_TIMESLICE_NS 10000000
>>  
>> +CPUState *cpu_init_def(const char *cpu_model)
>> +{
>> +    return cpu_init(cpu_model);
>> +}
>> +
> 
> So, now we have two interfaces to do exactly the same thing:
> cpu_init() and cpu_init_def(). But cpu_init() is a macro and
> cpu_init_def() is a function. cpu_init() is available only if you
> include cpu.h, but cpu_init_def() is available elsewhere.
> Ideally, code should be able to simply call a cpu_init()
> function, and it should work the same everywhere.
> 
> In practice, cleaning this up might take a while, so
> cpu_init_def() might be a temporary solution. But now I am not
> sure if having this additional wrapper is better than simply
> making null-machine.o target-dependent like you did before.

I don't mind either way ...
Does anybody else got an opinion on this problem?

 Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-17 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-17 12:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] hw/core/null-machine: Add the possibility to instantiate a CPU, RAM and kernel Thomas Huth
2017-01-17 12:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-01-17 13:10   ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2017-01-17 14:15     ` Eduardo Habkost

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