[Qemu-devel] MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Qemu-devel] MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Jean-Michel POURE]

Dear all,

Using the latest Qemu version from today's CVS (14 April 2004),
I was able to install Win2k. Here is a short user report:

Installation
1) First stage is OK (NTFS disc formatting, copy to disc)

2) Second stage needs a fair amount of memory (256 Mb in my case, Qemu crashed 
several times using 128 Mb). The installation ends up without noticable 
problem. It can take one hour and a half (which is 20 times faster than 
Bochs).

Startup
3) At reboot, Win2k displays a black screen. There seems to be a VGA problem.

4) Win2k can only boot in rescue mode (press F8 key during startup).

5) The network driver is not well recognized. Windows sees a "ne2000" network 
card without being able to configure it. I tried manually to IRQ 9, without 
success. 

6) The mouse is still incredibly slow. Win2k sees a "Logitec PS/2" mouse. This 
renders Windows unusable.

VBE driver
7) I tried the VBE driver from http://dhenriq.en.eresmas.com/ without success 
(there was still no diplay).

Cheers,
Jean-Michel

[Qemu-devel] Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Gabriel Ebner]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 441 bytes --]

Hello,

Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> 1) First stage is OK (NTFS disc formatting, copy to disc)

I get stuck here with latest CVS -- though earlier versions failed
similiarily -- with Windows giving the error "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".

Screendump is attached, and I could send you the virtual machine state if
you want and you have a Windows 2000 license (65M after bzip2 -9).

        Gabriel.

-- 
Gabriel Ebner - reverse "ta.renbeleirbag@eg"

[-- Attachment #2: w2kerr.png --]
[-- Type: image/png, Size: 12258 bytes --]

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Jean-Michel POURE]

Le mardi 13 Avril 2004 20:37, Gabriel Ebner a écrit :
> I get stuck here with latest CVS -- though earlier versions failed
> similiarily -- with Windows giving the error "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".

Can you try 256 Mb (qemu ... -m 256) and NTFS format?
Does it make it? Cheers, Jean-Michel

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Jean-Michel POURE]

Le mardi 13 Avril 2004 20:37, Gabriel Ebner a écrit :
> I get stuck here with latest CVS -- though earlier versions failed
> similiarily -- with Windows giving the error "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".

Something else comes to my mind, without real explaination : Win2k seems to 
install only from original Microsoft CD-ROM. Any attempt to make a local copy 
using dd utility failed to install. My command line to start Qemu was:

qemu -hda disc.img -cdrom /dev/hdc -m 256 -b d

Cheers,
Jean-Michel

[Qemu-devel] Re: Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Gabriel Ebner]

Hello,

Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> Le mardi 13 Avril 2004 20:37, Gabriel Ebner a écrit :
>> I get stuck here with latest CVS -- though earlier versions failed
>> similiarily -- with Windows giving the error "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".
> 
> Can you try 256 Mb (qemu ... -m 256) and NTFS format?
> Does it make it? Cheers, Jean-Michel

No, I still get the same error (except for the address, which is a bit
higher now than before).

Though if I use a 800M harddisk instead of a 4G one, I don't get that
error...

        Gabriel.

-- 
Gabriel Ebner - reverse "ta.renbeleirbag@eg"

[Qemu-devel] Re: Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Gabriel Ebner]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 341 bytes --]

Hello,

Gabriel Ebner wrote:
> Though if I use a 800M harddisk instead of a 4G one, I don't get that
> error...

Now with the 800M hd I get another error (attached).

OK, I'm going to test with 1.2G now (Jean-Michel, could you tell me how big
your (virtual) harddisk was?).

        Gabriel.

-- 
Gabriel Ebner - reverse "ta.renbeleirbag@eg"

[-- Attachment #2: w2kerr-2.png --]
[-- Type: image/png, Size: 12426 bytes --]

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Jean-Michel POURE]

Le mardi 13 Avril 2004 23:25, Gabriel Ebner a écrit :
> OK, I'm going to test with 1.2G now (Jean-Michel, could you tell me how big
> your (virtual) harddisk was?).

My hard disc is of 5Mb size, created with "bximage" from the Bochs project.

"bximage" creates virtual discs much faster than the dd utility (which looses 
time writing zeros to disc). If Bochs is installed, just enter "bximage" in a 
shell and answer questions.

By the way, about the display issue: I just removed the display card in rescue 
mode. After rebooting Windows, I could display in 800x600 VBE mode.

The only remaining visible issue, at user-level, seems to be the mouse,
which is toooo slow for using Windows in normal mode.

Some screenshots:
http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/qemu_win2k_13.png
http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/qemu_win2k_14.png
http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/qemu_win2k_15.png
http://developer.pgadmin.org/jean-michel/screenshots/

Windows 2k seems to run pretty quickly on my Pentimum IV 1,8 Ghz.
At a first sight, I would say it performs like a Pentium III 600 Mhz.

Very usable... Qemu rocks my friends.

Cheers, Jean-Michel

[Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Gabriel Ebner]

Hello,

Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> My hard disc is of 5Mb size, created with "bximage" from the Bochs
> project.

/me is very astounished and suspicious...
How could you install Windows 2000 on 5M?  Is that some sort of W2K-lite or
did you cheat a bit?

1.2G was too little for Windows 2000, so now I'll try with 2G.  Hope that
works...

BTW, you could check out qemu-mkcow to create hard disk images.

        Gabriel.

-- 
Gabriel Ebner - reverse "ta.renbeleirbag@eg"

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Jean-Michel POURE]

Le mercredi 14 Avril 2004 00:13, Gabriel Ebner a écrit :
> How could you install Windows 2000 on 5M? 
> BTW, you could check out qemu-mkcow to create hard disk images.

This was 5Gb...
I will check qemu-mkcow, thanks. 

[Qemu-devel] Re: Re: Re: MS Windows 2000 installation report

[Matt Howard]

Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> "bximage" creates virtual discs much faster than the dd utility (which
> looses time writing zeros to disc). If Bochs is installed, just enter
> "bximage" in a shell and answer questions.
dd doesn't need to write zeros either.  To create a sparse file, do this:

dd if=/dev/zero of=foo.bin bs=1 count=0 seek=5G

It should return almost immediately.

> 
> Very usable... Qemu rocks my friends.
Agreed.

> 
> Cheers, Jean-Michel

-- 
Matt Howard <mhoward@sigins.com>
Superior Insurance - Technical Services