From: "Jim C. Brown" <jma5@umd.edu>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:18:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050213001845.GA19429@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <420DD7F8.5080805@wasp.net.au>
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 02:18:32PM +0400, Brad Campbell wrote:
> Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> >Dear friends,
> >
> >Following Fabrice decision to transform QEMU into a proprietary closed
> >solution without any kind of future, I don't find any reason to loose my
> >company time and money fostering FreeOSZoo.
>
> Woah.. what a severe knee jerk reaction based on nothing. Perhaps before
> throwing your toys out of the pram, taking your bat and ball and heading
> home you might actually wait for a reply from Fabrice clarifying his
> intentions?
That is a good question. Why is Fabrice making kqemu propertiary?
I prefer open source code myself (because then I can fix any bugs in the code
on my own) but I do use propertiary software from time to time and I can live
with kqemu being propertiary. I don't like it, but as long as it works it is not
a problem for me.
And if it was, I'd just use qemu-softmmu and stay open.
It may be closed source but it is still free (as in beer). At least he isn't
charging us for his hard work.
>
> Everyone seems so quick to scream and shout about a single little binary
> object and license for one tiny part of the project. Perhaps there is a
> good reason behind what Fabrice is doing. I'm just astonished at the
> reaction to this. Whinge, bitch, moan.. I'm sure he is a busy lad and will
> formulate a reply as time permits. Until you get a clear statement on the
> issue (Fabrice is a clever lad, I'm damn sure he knows *exactly* what he is
> doing) why not just stop pontificating, hurling abuse and accusations and
> get on with your lives!
>
I agree that shutting FreeOSZoo down just because of kqemu is extreme (one
can check out cvs right now and get all the open source qemu w/o any
propertiary code whatsoever, so qemu is still free).
I can think of 3 reasons why kqemu is not free:
1) There are those that use qemu without giving Fabrice any money or credit
(such as iEmulator). This is best resolved by legal action, but it may be
difficult for a single person to fight against an entire company, financial-wise.
2) Fabrice wants to hold on to the source in order to make revenue from it in
the future.
3) (This one is a long shot) There may be patent issues that prevent Fabrice
from releasing his source code.
Remember that the rest of qemu is open source. So if it is such a big problem
for you, why not reimplement kqemu yourself? I'm trying, you can too.
>
> Brad
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> for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-13 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-12 9:18 [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005 Jean-Michel POURE
2005-02-12 10:15 ` Magnus Damm
2005-02-12 10:18 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-12 12:19 ` Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
2005-02-12 12:20 ` Daniel Egger
2005-02-12 13:42 ` Brad Campbell
2005-02-12 16:15 ` Daniel Egger
2005-02-12 17:00 ` Fabrice Bellard
2005-02-12 18:11 ` Jernej Simončič
2005-02-12 21:18 ` Daniel Egger
2005-02-12 23:01 ` Darrin Ritter
2005-02-13 0:06 ` Jernej Simončič
2005-02-13 11:28 ` Daniel Egger
2005-02-13 17:01 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-02-13 17:40 ` [Qemu-devel] Plex86 and Qemu jeebs
2005-02-13 18:27 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-02-13 19:35 ` jeebs
2005-02-13 22:06 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-02-13 23:20 ` jeebs
2005-02-14 0:05 ` [Qemu-devel] coLinux and Qemu? --was-- " Darryl Dixon
2005-02-14 0:37 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-02-14 0:58 ` Mark Williamson
2005-02-14 0:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim C. Brown
2005-02-14 10:39 ` Andreas Bollhalder
2005-02-13 22:18 ` Adrian Smarzewski
2005-02-13 23:04 ` Martin Koniczek
2005-02-14 14:18 ` Phil Krylov
2005-02-15 23:32 ` Old version support. Was: Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005 Gregory Alexander
2005-02-16 18:51 ` Fabrice Bellard
2005-02-13 0:18 ` Jim C. Brown [this message]
2005-02-13 4:42 ` James Mastros
2005-02-13 5:26 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-02-13 6:21 ` James Mastros
2005-02-13 10:02 ` Darryl Dixon
2005-02-13 16:53 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-02-13 13:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Robert Wittams
2005-02-12 22:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-02-17 21:53 ` Herbert Poetzl
2005-02-17 22:18 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-02-17 23:25 ` Fabrice Bellard
2005-02-18 4:29 ` John R. Hogerhuis
2005-02-18 8:23 ` Asko Kauppi
2005-02-18 11:05 ` Elefterios Stamatogiannakis
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