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From: Kyle Hayes <kyle@silverbeach.net>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [patch] option -no-tsc for i386 with speedstep
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:03:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200504252003.01917.kyle@silverbeach.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050425111532.GA2554@dizzy.ath.cx>

On Monday 25 April 2005 04:15, Massimo Dal Zotto wrote:
> When qemu runs on an i386 cpu with speedstep enabled the clock of the
> guest os is not in sync with the clock on the host os because the
> vm_timer used for irq 0 generates interrupts at wrong rate when
> the host cpu frequency changes.
>
> The problem is that the vm_timer uses the rdtsc instruction and the
> value of ticks_per_sec, computed at start time, for calculating the
> expire time of vm_timers. While ticks_per_sec is constant the values
> returned by rdtsc are dependent on the current cpu clock, which is not
> constant if speedstep is used.

There is a discussion about this problem on either x86-secret.com or 
Sudhian.  I can't remember which :-(  In the latest series of P4 chips 
(both Xeon and desktop I think), the counter used for the rdtsc 
instruction stays at the same frequency while the rest of the CPU changes.  
This led to some "interesting" results with programs like CPU-Z.

Intel's response was that they now hold the counter at a stable frequency 
so that this works.  Unfortunately, there are years of processors which do 
not do that, so other workarounds must be done.

Best,
Kyle

      parent reply	other threads:[~2005-04-26  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-25 11:15 [Qemu-devel] [patch] option -no-tsc for i386 with speedstep Massimo Dal Zotto
2005-04-25 15:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Heike C. Zimmerer
2005-04-25 17:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jim C. Brown
2005-04-25 17:28   ` Paul Brook
2005-04-25 17:44   ` Massimo Dal Zotto
2005-04-25 17:47   ` [Qemu-devel] " Heike C. Zimmerer
2005-04-25 18:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2005-04-25 20:17   ` Massimo Dal Zotto
2005-04-25 20:24     ` Jonas Maebe
2005-04-25 20:38       ` Filip Navara
2005-04-25 21:03         ` Lionel Ulmer
2005-04-25 22:45         ` Taras Glek
2005-04-25 21:46       ` [Qemu-devel] [patch] option -no-tsc for i386 with speedstep (solved) Massimo Dal Zotto
2005-04-26  6:50         ` Jonas Maebe
2005-04-26  3:03 ` Kyle Hayes [this message]

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