[Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Antony Gelberg]

Hi all,

This is my first experience with qemu.  I'm using 0.7.0 in Debian
unstable.  I'm trying to install a Windows XP image from CD.  All I've
done is:

dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=5000000 count=0
qemu -boot c -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda hd.img

Setup finishes, then the machine reboots and hangs at the black screen
with the Windows XP Professional logo and Please wait... below it.
There is no CPU usage.  How can I go about debugging this?

Antony

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Do nothing. Just wait. It takes a LONG time. (shorter if you use kqemu)...

Thanks,
Hetz

On 7/26/05, Antony Gelberg <antony@wayforth.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This is my first experience with qemu.  I'm using 0.7.0 in Debian
> unstable.  I'm trying to install a Windows XP image from CD.  All I've
> done is:
> 
> dd of=hd.img bs=1024 seek=5000000 count=0
> qemu -boot c -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda hd.img
> 
> Setup finishes, then the machine reboots and hangs at the black screen
> with the Windows XP Professional logo and Please wait... below it.
> There is no CPU usage.  How can I go about debugging this?
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Antony Gelberg]

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Do nothing. Just wait. It takes a LONG time. (shorter if you use kqemu)...

I'll take your word for it, but if it's using next to no CPU, then what
_is_ it doing?

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Antony Gelberg]

Antony Gelberg wrote:
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> 
>>Do nothing. Just wait. It takes a LONG time. (shorter if you use kqemu)...

Ok, one day later, it's still doing nothing, still using no CPU, can
somebody now help me to debug this?

Antony

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Christian MICHON]

1) have you tried using qemu-img instead of dd ?
   (I usually use the qcow format for windows guests. 2G should be ok.
    "qemu-img create -f qcow hd.img 2G" )

2) you do not mention bios path, memory of vm and boot sequence.
  I suggest you add at least the "-boot d". By default, 128M will be used
  for the vm (sufficient for XP). Make sure your debian box has plenty of
  RAM (512M is good).

3) is your qemu optimized? and which version of gcc is used?

Christian

On 7/27/05, Antony Gelberg <antony@wayforth.co.uk> wrote:
> Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> >
> >>Do nothing. Just wait. It takes a LONG time. (shorter if you use kqemu)...
> 
> Ok, one day later, it's still doing nothing, still using no CPU, can
> somebody now help me to debug this?
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Antony Gelberg]

Christian MICHON wrote:
> 1) have you tried using qemu-img instead of dd ?
>    (I usually use the qcow format for windows guests. 2G should be ok.
>     "qemu-img create -f qcow hd.img 2G" )

I'm trying that now.

> 2) you do not mention bios path, memory of vm and boot sequence.
>   I suggest you add at least the "-boot d". By default, 128M will be used
>   for the vm (sufficient for XP). Make sure your debian box has plenty of
>   RAM (512M is good).

I mentioned the command line in my original post to the thread.

qemu -boot c -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda hd.img

So it's using 128MB, and my box does indeed have 512MB.

> 3) is your qemu optimized? and which version of gcc is used?

I have had a look in the Debian config.  The only non-standard configure
option is --enable-slirp.  Debian compiles qemu with -Wall -O2 -g
-fno-strict-aliasing.  Not sure what gcc was used, but probably 3.3.

Antony

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Christian MICHON]

On 7/27/05, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I mentioned the command line in my original post to the thread.
> 
> qemu -boot c -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda hd.img

sorry. I'm used to add it at the end of the cmd line :)

> > 3) is your qemu optimized? and which version of gcc is used?
> 
> I have had a look in the Debian config.  The only non-standard configure
> option is --enable-slirp.  Debian compiles qemu with -Wall -O2 -g
> -fno-strict-aliasing.  Not sure what gcc was used, but probably 3.3.

just to make sure it's not 3.4.x or 4.x.x :)

one last question: it's an OEM version or a std version (like upgrade or
full install) ? I expect OEM versions not to work (qemu hardware may not
be aligned with the particular OEM version you have, in which case I'd
expect an error 7b sooner or later, or a hang...)

Christian

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Paul Brook]

> > Not sure what gcc was used, but probably 3.3.
>
> just to make sure it's not 3.4.x or 4.x.x :)

gcc3.4 works fine. I build qemu with it all the time.
Some of the earlier versions would ICE while building the SSE emulation code 
on some hosts, but recent versions should work.

Paul

[Qemu-devel] Kqemu for windows more free than kqemu for linux?

[Elefterios Stamatogiannakis]

Not to start a flame war here but i find it odd that the license of 
kqemu for windows is a LOT more free than the license of linux kqemu.

License for kqemu-win32.c is a lot like public domain + below clause:

  * The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be 
included in
  * all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

License for kqemu-linux.c is simply this:

  * Copyright (c) 2004-2005 Fabrice Bellard

teris.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Kqemu for windows more free than kqemu for linux?

[Paul Brook]

On Wednesday 27 July 2005 15:15, Elefterios Stamatogiannakis wrote:
> Not to start a flame war here but i find it odd that the license of
> kqemu for windows is a LOT more free than the license of linux kqemu.
>
> License for kqemu-win32.c is a lot like public domain + below clause:
>
>   * The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
> included in
>   * all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
>
> License for kqemu-linux.c is simply this:
>
>   * Copyright (c) 2004-2005 Fabrice Bellard

This is all rather irrelevant as the important bit is the binary object 
released under a proprietary licence.

The reason for the difference is that the win32 parts were written by a 
different author, and are also used by qvm86. The linux parts were written by 
Fabrice, so presumably are covered by the kqemu licence.

Paul

[Qemu-devel] Kqemu and qvm86 for windows

[Elefterios Stamatogiannakis]

I'm trying to find out why qvm86 crashes the host (instant reboot when 
right clicking on some icons on the guest desktop).

So i thought if it is possible to use some code from kqemu-win32.c to 
update qvm86-win32.c

I saw that there are some differences in how the two do the same think 
and thought that maybe i could have the stability of kqemu-win32 and the 
absence of some bugs in qvm86-win32.

For example by using kqemu-win32 and user-net for some reason the dns 
doesn't work (i'm using dhcp). The same works without kqemu or by using 
qvm86 (win2k host, win2k guest).

thank you guys for making qemu what it is.

teris.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Mark Guertin]

Gcc 4.x does not.  Getting dyngen problems here when trying but I  
haven't had time to chase anything down on it yet.

dyngen: blr expected at the end of op_bfsw_TO_cc

sure enough, after a quick objdump there is no blr (or variation).   
Figured this is likely a known thing as gcc 4.x is kind of bleeding  
edge.

Mark

On 27-Jul-05, at 8:45 AM, Paul Brook wrote:

>>> Not sure what gcc was used, but probably 3.3.
>>>
>>
>> just to make sure it's not 3.4.x or 4.x.x :)
>>
>
> gcc3.4 works fine. I build qemu with it all the time.
> Some of the earlier versions would ICE while building the SSE  
> emulation code
> on some hosts, but recent versions should work.
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Paul Brook]

On Wednesday 27 July 2005 15:43, Mark Guertin wrote:
> Gcc 4.x does not.  Getting dyngen problems here when trying but I
> haven't had time to chase anything down on it yet.
>
> dyngen: blr expected at the end of op_bfsw_TO_cc
>
> sure enough, after a quick objdump there is no blr (or variation).
> Figured this is likely a known thing as gcc 4.x is kind of bleeding
> edge.

See the 3rd Q in http://www.geocities.com/nixling_gone/faq.html

Paul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Mark Guertin]

On 27-Jul-05, at 11:11 AM, Paul Brook wrote:

> On Wednesday 27 July 2005 15:43, Mark Guertin wrote:
>
>> Gcc 4.x does not.  Getting dyngen problems here when trying but I
>> haven't had time to chase anything down on it yet.
>>
>> dyngen: blr expected at the end of op_bfsw_TO_cc
>>
>> sure enough, after a quick objdump there is no blr (or variation).
>> Figured this is likely a known thing as gcc 4.x is kind of bleeding
>> edge.
>>
>
> See the 3rd Q in http://www.geocities.com/nixling_gone/faq.html
>
> Paul

Thanks, I figured this would be a problem and that's why I didn't try  
to chase things down.  Sadly the current distro I'm playing with  
(Fedorca Core PPC) doesn't even have a gcc3 option!!  But on that  
note I'll not be staying with this distro for long either.

Thanks for the info.

Mark

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Paul Brook]

> > See the 3rd Q in http://www.geocities.com/nixling_gone/faq.html
> >
> > Paul
>
> Thanks, I figured this would be a problem and that's why I didn't try
> to chase things down.  Sadly the current distro I'm playing with
> (Fedorca Core PPC) doesn't even have a gcc3 option!!  But on that
> note I'll not be staying with this distro for long either.

Yes it does.
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/Fedora/RPMS/compat-gcc-32-3.2.3-47.fc4.ppc.rpm

Paul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Mark Guertin]

The pkgs are there, but it doesn't mean they work right ;)  FC4 PPC  
is pretty wonky at best of times, especially toolchain stuff.  Too  
many nasty hacks added to it for my liking that don't quite jive with  
stock glibc/gcc.  The userland tools for multiple toolchains leave  
much to be desired as well, but thanks for the info again.  Doing  
work for other distro's I've followed the RH toolchain patch sets for  
years and did a lot of head shaking.

Mark

On 27-Jul-05, at 2:06 PM, Paul Brook wrote:

>>> See the 3rd Q in http://www.geocities.com/nixling_gone/faq.html
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I figured this would be a problem and that's why I didn't try
>> to chase things down.  Sadly the current distro I'm playing with
>> (Fedorca Core PPC) doesn't even have a gcc3 option!!  But on that
>> note I'll not be staying with this distro for long either.
>>
>
> Yes it does.
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/ppc/os/ 
> Fedora/RPMS/compat-gcc-32-3.2.3-47.fc4.ppc.rpm
>
> Paul
>

compilation problems (was: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows)

[Thomas Schwinge]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 01:45:26PM +0100, Paul Brook wrote:
> gcc3.4 works fine. I build qemu with it all the time.
> Some of the earlier versions would ICE while building the SSE emulation code 
> on some hosts, but recent versions should work.

One problem still exists:
#v+
gcc -I/package/misc/spf/qemu-0-20050726T193727Z-3/spf/zlib/include -I/package/misc/spf/qemu-0-20050726T193727Z-3/spf/sdl/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -pipe -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -I. -I/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/target-i386 -I/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0 -I/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/linux-user -I/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/linux-user/i386 -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -I/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/fpu -I/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/slirp -c -o translate-copy.o /var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/target-i386/translate-copy.c
/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/target-i386/ops_sse.h: In function `op_psrlq_mmx':
/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/target-i386/ops_sse.h:213: error: unable to find a register to spill in class `GENERAL_REGS'
/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/target-i386/ops_sse.h:213: error: this is the insn:
(insn:HI 36 35 37 3 (parallel [
            (set (reg:DI 63 [ <variable>.q ])
                (lshiftrt:DI (reg:DI 63 [ <variable>.q ])
                    (subreg:QI (reg/v:SI 60 [ shift ]) 0)))
            (clobber (scratch:SI))
            (clobber (reg:CC 17 flags))
        ]) 309 {lshrdi3_1} (insn_list 33 (insn_list 35 (nil)))
    (expr_list:REG_DEAD (reg/v:SI 60 [ shift ])
        (expr_list:REG_UNUSED (reg:CC 17 flags)
            (expr_list:REG_UNUSED (scratch:SI)
                (nil)))))
/var/tmp/build/qemu/qemu-0/target-i386/ops_sse.h:213: confused by earlier errors, bailing out
make[1]: *** [op.o] Error 1
#v-

The problem goes away if I build with '-march=pentium' instead of
'-march=athlon-xp'.


Regards,
 Thomas

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Doctor Bill]

In your original message, you mentioned setup had finished.  One thing
I can recommend trying on your second attempt is to make sure you
create more than one user account when prompted.  XP Pro seems to
behave differently depending on if there is one or more than one
accounts.

I actually had the exact same problem on a real PC.  I did not have
time to try and resolve thi problem, so I ended up installing XP Home
edition on that particular computer.

Bill


On 7/27/05, Antony Gelberg <antony@wayforth.co.uk> wrote:
> Christian MICHON wrote:
> > 1) have you tried using qemu-img instead of dd ?
> >    (I usually use the qcow format for windows guests. 2G should be ok.
> >     "qemu-img create -f qcow hd.img 2G" )
> 
> I'm trying that now.
> 
> > 2) you do not mention bios path, memory of vm and boot sequence.
> >   I suggest you add at least the "-boot d". By default, 128M will be used
> >   for the vm (sufficient for XP). Make sure your debian box has plenty of
> >   RAM (512M is good).
> 
> I mentioned the command line in my original post to the thread.
> 
> qemu -boot c -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda hd.img
> 
> So it's using 128MB, and my box does indeed have 512MB.
> 
> > 3) is your qemu optimized? and which version of gcc is used?
> 
> I have had a look in the Debian config.  The only non-standard configure
> option is --enable-slirp.  Debian compiles qemu with -Wall -O2 -g
> -fno-strict-aliasing.  Not sure what gcc was used, but probably 3.3.
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Antony Gelberg]

I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.

Any more ideas?  This is XP Pro corp, by the way, and I have not set up
networking yet (don't have the tun module compiled).

Antony

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Try rebooting the virtual machine, just add: -user-net to the QEMU parameters.

Thanks,
Hetz

On 7/27/05, Antony Gelberg <antony@wayforth.co.uk> wrote:
> I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
> as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
> but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
> is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
> computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.
> 
> Any more ideas?  This is XP Pro corp, by the way, and I have not set up
> networking yet (don't have the tun module compiled).
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Paul Brook]

On Wednesday 27 July 2005 14:21, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
> as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
> but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
> is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
> computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.
>
> Any more ideas?  This is XP Pro corp, by the way, and I have not set up
> networking yet (don't have the tun module compiled).

You need to boot in safe mode and install a service pack (SP1 or SP2, doesn't 
matter which).

Paul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Antony Gelberg]

Paul Brook wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 July 2005 14:21, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> 
>>I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
>>as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
>>but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
>>is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
>>computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.
>>
>>Any more ideas?  This is XP Pro corp, by the way, and I have not set up
>>networking yet (don't have the tun module compiled).
> 
> 
> You need to boot in safe mode and install a service pack (SP1 or SP2, doesn't 
> matter which).

Worked great, perhaps this could be in the FAQ?

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Filip Navara]

Antony Gelberg wrote:

>Paul Brook wrote:
>  
>
>>On Wednesday 27 July 2005 14:21, Antony Gelberg wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
>>>as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
>>>but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
>>>is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
>>>computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.
>>>
>>>Any more ideas?  This is XP Pro corp, by the way, and I have not set up
>>>networking yet (don't have the tun module compiled).
>>>      
>>>
>>You need to boot in safe mode and install a service pack (SP1 or SP2, doesn't 
>>matter which).
>>    
>>
>
>Worked great, perhaps this could be in the FAQ?
>  
>
Reading the documentation would help... 
(http://www.qemu.org/qemu-doc.html#SEC30)

- Filip

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Jim C. Brown]

On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:04:11PM +0200, Filip Navara wrote:
> >>>I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
> >>>as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
> >>>but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
> >>>is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
> >>>computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.
> >>>
> >>You need to boot in safe mode and install a service pack (SP1 or SP2, 
> >>doesn't matter which).
> >Worked great, perhaps this could be in the FAQ?
> >
> Reading the documentation would help... 
> (http://www.qemu.org/qemu-doc.html#SEC30)
> 
> - Filip
> 

It doesn't mention that installing a service pack will make the error go away
and allow one to boot normally.

-- 
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Infinite precision begets infinite perfection.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Problem installing WIndows

[Christian MICHON]

http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-doc.html#TOC30

note this doesn't happen on non corp apparently.

Christian

On 7/27/05, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> I've gotten a little further, but don't seem to be finding this as easy
> as some of you.  I can now type the admin password at the login screen,
> but I get a dialog, title "Windows Product Activation", text "A problem
> is preventing Windows from accurately checking the license for this
> computer.  Error Code: 0x800703e6.
> 
> Any more ideas?  This is XP Pro corp, by the way, and I have not set up
> networking yet (don't have the tun module compiled).
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
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