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From: "Jim C. Brown" <jma5@umd.edu>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] tun/tap networking
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:12:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051001131215.GB28444@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <433E44F9.8040501@eclis.ch>

On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 10:12:41AM +0200, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
> Jim C. Brown a ?crit :
> 
> >Typically, tapX (tap0, tap1, etc) names are reserved for tap devices 
> >(ethernet
> >frames) and tunX (tun0, tun1, etc) are reserved for tun devices (IP 
> >frames).
> >
> >qemu breaks those rules and calls the tap device that it creates tun0. 
> >This is
> >done for reasons that Fabrice has not made clear. (I assume there is a 
> >reason
> >for it because he has refused to apply any of the patches that fix this.)
> 
> You point the real question: why it has been impossible to get accepted 
> any patch that fixed this. I has proposed one myself and I get no 
> comment at all. I see similar effort from others and obviousely there 
> failed almost the same way. No getting any valuable comment about why a 
> idea proposed by many peopoles is not applyed make this subject very hard.
> 

The change I was talking about is a one line patch...

It's annoying that Fabrice has said nothing about it. But it doesn't actually
mess anything up, it's just confusing for advanced users.

I presume that the device qemu makes is called tun0 because Fabrice wants to
make clear that he doesnt use (and wont support) the ethertap device. Not a
very good reason.

(Or maybe he wants to keep it tun0 because if he changed the name he'd have
to change the option -tun-fd to -tap-fd and that'd break some scripts.)

> I hope that we can resolve this subject, because in my point of view, 
> using a existing "tun" is far more simpler than create one the way quemu 
> do;

I never mentioned that. At all.

And qemu already supports that, via the -tun-fd option.

> and this open a lot of new uses in terme of the network managment of 
> the quemu instance. The very first one for me is to allow only root to 
> setup a DHCP server and to assign "tuns" interfaces to the users that 
> needs it, so there don't even have to think about the network setup, 
> ther just boot into quemu an OS with a DHCP client.
> 

That is a little tricky to do - but qemu can do it.

> Any comment this time ?
> -- 
> Jean-Christian de Rivaz
> 
> 
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Infinite precision begets infinite perfection.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-01 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-30 22:13 [Qemu-devel] tun/tap networking Don Kitchen
2005-09-30 22:21 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-09-30 22:21 ` Paul Brook
2005-09-30 23:01 ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-01  8:12   ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-01 13:12     ` Jim C. Brown [this message]
2005-10-01 20:24       ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-01 21:09         ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-01 21:17           ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-01 20:47       ` [Qemu-devel] tun/tap networking: patch for existing tun Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-02  2:42         ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-02  7:56           ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-02 10:24             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-02 16:53               ` Lars Munch
2005-10-02 17:50                 ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-02 19:47                   ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-02 20:27                     ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-02 18:45             ` Anthony Liguori
2005-10-02 19:39               ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-02 20:23                 ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-02 22:37                   ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-03  9:46                     ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-03 12:04                       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-03 13:10                         ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-03 13:19                         ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-03 13:13                       ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-03 14:14                         ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-03 13:07                     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-03 14:00                       ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-03 15:04                       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-03 13:01                   ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-03 13:58                     ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-03 15:06                     ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-03 12:54                 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-03 15:14                   ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-03 18:29                     ` Fabrice Bellard
2005-10-03 19:22                       ` Christian MICHON
2005-10-03 20:29                         ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-04  7:09                           ` Christian MICHON
2005-10-04  7:56                             ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-03 21:36                       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-04  8:23                       ` Matteo
2005-10-04 11:34                         ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-01 17:49     ` [Qemu-devel] tun/tap networking Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-01 20:54       ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2005-10-01 11:30   ` Oliver Gerlich
2005-10-01 13:07     ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-01 13:50       ` Paul Brook
2005-10-01 21:15         ` Jim C. Brown
2005-10-02  2:21           ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-10-01 17:52     ` Henrik Nordstrom

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