From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EWEDc-00044R-RI for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:31:33 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EWEDa-00043t-2U for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:31:31 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWEDZ-00043p-FH for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:31:29 -0500 Received: from [128.8.10.163] (helo=po1.wam.umd.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EWEDZ-0007lG-J4 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:31:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:31:23 -0500 From: "Jim C. Brown" Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Graphic card Message-ID: <20051030143123.GA23689@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> References: <8a6cde920510291735i71b1e86am9d40710364c19326@mail.gmail.com> <79bf98480510292143t2b4d4663s263fc3bd1a6f48b5@mail.gmail.com> <4364B640.8070105@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4364B640.8070105@gmx.de> Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Oliver Gerlich Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org On Sun, Oct 30, 2005 at 01:02:08PM +0100, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike Swanson schrieb: > > 4. It sounds reasonable, but it undermines one of QEMU's goals: > > running guest operating system without modification (and drivers > > certainly count as one). Also, it'll possibly limit the number of > > operating systems you'd run in QEMU with fancy graphics... > > implementing Cirrus makes it possible to run many OSes with no (or > > few) video problems, including Windows 95, Win NT 4, almost every > > GNU/Linux, almost every BSD, Solaris, Darwin, Plan 9, QNX, DOS, BeOS, > > etc. > > > > So, I think we shouldn't dismiss the possibility of a special Qemu > graphics card (and driver). The Cirrus card (and -std-vga) should still > be available for those systems where the Qemu graphics driver is not > available, while the users who run a wide-spread, recent system as guest > can have faster graphics. > > Just my two cents, > Oliver Gerlich There is (or was) work on a qemu-specific opengl library. It didn't require any special hardware - just a guest-side driver and some patches to qemu. It'd accomplish the same effect as a custom driver, but perhaps more easily. -- Infinite complexity begets infinite beauty. Infinite precision begets infinite perfection.