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From: "Jim C. Brown" <jma5@umd.edu>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] patch for qemu with newer gcc-3.4.x (support repz retq optimization for amd processors correctly)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:35:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051110033546.GA1424@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051110014404.GC2321@mail.shareable.org>

On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 01:44:04AM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > 
> > The use of gcc to generate the back end in QEMU's early days was a 
> > clever way to get the project up and running quickly.  But surely
> > now it would be better to transition to a handwritten backend, so
> 
> It should be trivial to take the _currently_ generated GCC code for
> all the architectures QEMU is commonly built on, and just distribute
> that code with the QEMU source.
> 

You mean convert the code with gcc 3 into asm, and then distribute that?

I'm no expert, but I would imagine such a solution would be quite brittle.
That's assuming one can make gcc 3 assembly code work with gcc 4 (5?) code
to form a single object file.

> Then it would be independent of future changes to GCC.

Well, someone would still need to maintain all those assembly files.

Or else keep an old copy of gcc 3 around to regenerate them whenever needed.

> 
> I understand a handwritten backend is already being written.  But
> until a proper one is done, wouldn't that serve as a useful stopgap?
> 

I believe the current version works - but it doesn't implement every possible
op yet. For now, it relies on dyngen to produce the missing ops (until they are
replaced with the hand coded version).

> -- Jamie
> 

-- 
Infinite complexity begets infinite beauty.
Infinite precision begets infinite perfection.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-10  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-09 19:17 [Qemu-devel] patch for qemu with newer gcc-3.4.x (support repz retq optimization for amd processors correctly) Igor Kovalenko
2005-11-09 19:45 ` Paul Brook
2005-11-09 19:51   ` Igor Kovalenko
2005-11-10  1:33     ` Julian Seward
2005-11-10  1:44       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-11-10  3:35         ` Jim C. Brown [this message]
2005-11-11  7:59         ` John R. Hogerhuis
2005-11-10  1:54       ` Jim C. Brown
2005-11-10 22:28   ` Igor Kovalenko

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