[Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Michael Fisher]

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I am wondering if Apple's switch over to Intel will make it easier or harder
to use a Mac as host using qemu? Also, what about the Mac OS's as guest?

Any thought?


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Oliver Gerlich]

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Michael Fisher schrieb:
> [...] Also, what about the Mac OS's as
> guest?

See this forum thread about "Mac OS X86 on x86":
http://qemu.dad-answers.com/viewtopic.php?t=223

Regards,
Oliver
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Natalia Portillo]

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That is misinformation and incomplete.

Mac OS X x86 previous of 10.4.4 CANNOT RUN inside qemu because lack  
of full SSE3 instructions and TPM module (it can run CRACKED inside  
qemu, as shown in the forum. 10.4.1 works but 10.4.3 not for unknown  
reason)
Mac OS X x86 10.4.4 (retail and public x86 version) CANNOT RUN inside  
qemu because qemu emulates a PC (BIOS architecture) and Mac OS X  
expects an EFI (sure there will be some more problems) architecture.
qemu cannot run in Mac OS X x86 because qemu doesn't compile right  
with GCC 4.0 (previous versions do not create Mac OS X x86 binaries).

El 14/01/2006, a las 20:26, Oliver Gerlich escribió:

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> Michael Fisher schrieb:
>> [...] Also, what about the Mac OS's as
>> guest?
>
> See this forum thread about "Mac OS X86 on x86":
> http://qemu.dad-answers.com/viewtopic.php?t=223
>
> Regards,
> Oliver
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RE: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Farina, Jonathan]

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Hi,
 
I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been asked before... 
 
Has anyone thought of adjusting Qemu to be a Virtualiser rather than an emulator? Or a combination of both?  This would allow a Linux host to run Windows at 95% speed?  Or from my point of view allow the new OS X (x86) Host to run a Windows client? 
 
Jon

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Sent: 14 January 2006 19:16
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host




I am wondering if Apple's switch over to Intel will make it easier or harder to use a Mac as host using qemu? Also, what about the Mac OS's as guest?

Any thought?


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Natalia Portillo]

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KQEMU and qvm86 already do that

El 16/01/2006, a las 9:31, Farina, Jonathan escribió:

> Hi,
>
> I'm new to the list, so forgive me if this has been asked before...
>
> Has anyone thought of adjusting Qemu to be a Virtualiser rather  
> than an emulator? Or a combination of both?  This would allow a  
> Linux host to run Windows at 95% speed?  Or from my point of view  
> allow the new OS X (x86) Host to run a Windows client?
>
> Jon
>
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> [mailto:qemu-devel-bounces+jonathan.farina=csfb.com@nongnu.org]On  
> Behalf Of Michael Fisher
> Sent: 14 January 2006 19:16
> To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> Subject: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host
>
>
> I am wondering if Apple's switch over to Intel will make it easier  
> or harder to use a Mac as host using qemu? Also, what about the Mac  
> OS's as guest?
>
> Any thought?
>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Paul Brook]

> Has anyone thought of adjusting Qemu to be a Virtualiser rather than an
> emulator? Or a combination of both?  This would allow a Linux host to run
> Windows at 95% speed?  Or from my point of view allow the new OS X (x86)
> Host to run a Windows client?

http://www.qvm86.org/

Paul

RE: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Farina, Jonathan]

Paul, thanks for the link.

That project looks dead.  Can't link to the CVS and the page hasn't been updated since March 05.  Anyone know of any updated project branch or has the functionality been merged into the main project?

Jon

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Sent: 16 January 2006 15:03
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Farina, Jonathan
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host


> Has anyone thought of adjusting Qemu to be a Virtualiser rather than an
> emulator? Or a combination of both?  This would allow a Linux host to run
> Windows at 95% speed?  Or from my point of view allow the new OS X (x86)
> Host to run a Windows client?

http://www.qvm86.org/

Paul

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Paul Brook]

On Monday 16 January 2006 15:10, Farina, Jonathan wrote:
> Paul, thanks for the link.
>
> That project looks dead.  Can't link to the CVS 

Huh? CVS works fine here.

> and the page hasn't been 
> updated since March 05.  Anyone know of any updated project branch or has
> the functionality been merged into the main project?

It's been a few months since I did anything with it, but it should still work.

Paul

Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Daniel Jacobowitz]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 03:10:02PM -0000, Farina, Jonathan wrote:
> Paul, thanks for the link.
> 
> That project looks dead.  Can't link to the CVS and the page hasn't
> been updated since March 05.  Anyone know of any updated project
> branch or has the functionality been merged into the main project?

Did you even look at the same page Paul sent you to? :-)  It's active,
CVS works fine, and he's the author.

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CodeSourcery

RE: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[Farina, Jonathan]

Clearly, I'm an idiot!  Now all I need to do is compile it for OS X, well considering I couldn't even find the CVS, that's going to be real fun!

Thanks

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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host


On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 03:10:02PM -0000, Farina, Jonathan wrote:
> Paul, thanks for the link.
> 
> That project looks dead.  Can't link to the CVS and the page hasn't
> been updated since March 05.  Anyone know of any updated project
> branch or has the functionality been merged into the main project?

Did you even look at the same page Paul sent you to? :-)  It's active,
CVS works fine, and he's the author.

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Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac as Host

[André Braga]

On 1/17/06, Farina, Jonathan <jonathan.farina@credit-suisse.com> wrote:
> Clearly, I'm an idiot!  Now all I need to do is compile it for OS X, well considering I couldn't even find the CVS, that's going to be real fun!

I'm under the impression that it's for x86-only...



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