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From: Jens Axboe <qemu@kernel.dk>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] make sure disk writes actually hit disk
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:18:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060731081817.GJ14748@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5051934D-ED2D-4F2B-A456-F6195CC47393@elis.ugent.be>

On Mon, Jul 31 2006, Jonas Maebe wrote:
> 
> On 31 jul 2006, at 09:08, Jens Axboe wrote:
> 
> >>Applications running on the host can count on fsync doing the
> >>right thing, meaning that if they call fsync, the data *will*
> >>have made it to disk.  Applications running inside a guest have
> >>no guarantees that their data is actually going to make it
> >>anywhere when fsync returns...
> >
> >Then the guest OS is broken.
> 
> The problem is that supposedly many OS'es are broken in this way. See
> http://lists.apple.com/archives/darwin-dev/2005/Feb/msg00072.html

Well, as others have written here as well, then their OS are broken on
"real" hardware as well.

I wouldn't be adverse to a QEMU work-around, but O_SYNC is clearly not a
viable alternative! We could make QEMU behave more like a real hard
drive when it has aio support, "flushing" dirty cache out in a manner
more closely mimicking what a drive would do instead of relying on the
page cache writeout deciding to write it out.

-- 
Jens Axboe

      reply	other threads:[~2006-07-31  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-28 19:54 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] make sure disk writes actually hit disk Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-07-28 20:18   ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 20:30     ` Paul Brook
2006-07-28 20:43       ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 21:01         ` Paul Brook
2006-07-31  7:08     ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29  9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2006-07-29 14:59   ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-29 16:04     ` Paul Brook
2006-07-29 16:22       ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-29 16:31         ` Paul Brook
2006-07-31  7:08           ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29 17:33     ` Bill C. Riemers
2006-07-30 21:47       ` Jamie Lokier
2006-07-30 21:41     ` Jamie Lokier
2006-07-31  9:52       ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-07-31 10:17         ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31 17:50           ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-07-31  7:08     ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31  7:56       ` Jonas Maebe
2006-07-31  8:18         ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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