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From: Thiemo Seufer <ths@networkno.de>
To: "J. Mayer" <l_indien@magic.fr>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: IRQ handling (was [Qemu-devel] qemu Makefile.target vl.h hw/acpi.c hw/adlib.c ...)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 15:41:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070408144103.GM21953@networkno.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1176018595.1516.115.camel@rapid>

J. Mayer wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 01:04 +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> > J. Mayer wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > To give you an real example why arbitrary limits are not acceptable AT
> > > ALL: I know an embedded Mips device (widely used !) with 2 CPU, 8 PIC
> > > and about 500 IRQ sources.
> > 
> > Care to tell which one this is?
> 
> I'm sorry, I'm no sure I can (NDA rules....).
> Let's say it's a chips used in some consumer electronics products.
> 
> > > How can you even pretend add a limited
> > > structure in the CPUState structure when this is exactly the kind of
> > > device some people want to emulate in Qemu ? Your concept is completely
> > > broken, you have to admit it. You can never put peripheral informations
> > > in the CPUState structure.
> > 
> > At least for MIPS it makes sense to put the CPU-internal controller
> > in exactly that place.
> 
> It does not. If you look well, the IRQ controller is not in the CPU.
> Only the exception are managed in the CPU. The "internal" IRQ controller
> is a peripheral device located in the CP0.

It is not a peripheral but an integral part of any MIPS-compatible CPU.
The architecture allows since MIPS{32,64}R2 to optionally externalize
interupts (the so-called VEIC mode), but even those devices have to
implement the traditional "compatibility mode" interrupt handling.

This is spelt out e.g. in MD00091, page 32, as available from
http://www.mips.com/products/resource_library/product_materials/

> OK, the CP0 is tightly
> coupled to the CPU so it's easier to consider it as part of the CPU,
> when emulating it. But it seems like you could imagine a MIPS CPU
> without a CP0 coprocessor (even if it will never happen in the real
> world), no ?

No. Since MIPS{32,64}R2 the CP0 is standardized and a mandatory part of
a MIPS compatible CPU.

> The problem is also: what does this patch adds, but complexity and
> arbitrary limitations ?

For MIPS it adds an abstraction layer between the interrupt controller
and the CP0 registers which will be useful to implement support for
SMP devices.

> What do you need to route an IRQ ?
> -> A peripheral destination
> What we got now ?
> -> a callback with 3 parameters: an opaque, a PIN (the n_IRQ) and a
> state

A pin number doesn't look like a reasonable abstraction for a packetized
interrupt on an interconnection fabric (like it is used on e.g O2000).
It may do for the machines we currently emulate, though.


Thiemo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-08 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-07 18:14 [Qemu-devel] qemu Makefile.target vl.h hw/acpi.c hw/adlib.c Paul Brook
2007-04-07 18:32 ` J. Mayer
2007-04-07 19:10   ` Paul Brook
2007-04-07 19:32     ` Blue Swirl
2007-04-07 19:46       ` Paul Brook
2007-04-07 20:28     ` J. Mayer
2007-04-07 20:45       ` Paul Brook
2007-04-07 22:18         ` J. Mayer
2007-04-07 22:49           ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-04-07 23:13           ` Paul Brook
2007-04-07 23:54             ` J. Mayer
2007-04-08  0:04               ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-04-08  7:49                 ` IRQ handling (was [Qemu-devel] qemu Makefile.target vl.h hw/acpi.c hw/adlib.c ...) J. Mayer
2007-04-08  8:38                   ` J. Mayer
2007-04-08 14:41                   ` Thiemo Seufer [this message]
2007-04-08 16:31                     ` J. Mayer
2007-04-08 20:43                       ` QEMU Automated Testing " Natalia Portillo
2007-04-08 22:07                         ` Eduardo Felipe
2007-04-08 23:53                           ` Natalia Portillo
2007-04-09  9:36                             ` Eduardo Felipe
2007-04-09 21:19                         ` Rob Landley
2007-04-10 11:24                         ` Jamie Lokier
2007-04-10 12:00                         ` Pierre d'Herbemont
2007-07-27 14:21                         ` Dan Shearer
2007-07-27 14:29                           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-07-27 14:34                             ` Dan Shearer
2007-07-27 14:58                               ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-07-27 15:12                                 ` Dan Shearer
2007-07-27 15:50                                   ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-07-27 16:04                                     ` Dan Shearer
2007-07-27 16:50                                     ` Jan Marten Simons
2007-07-27 18:51                                 ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-07-27 19:55                                   ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-07-28 10:17                                     ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-07-28 11:41                                       ` Sunil Amitkumar Janki
2007-07-28 12:43                                         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: QEMU Automated Testing Stefan Weil
2007-07-27 18:54                                 ` QEMU Automated Testing (was [Qemu-devel] qemu Makefile.target vl.h hw/acpi.c hw/adlib.c ...) Andreas Färber
2007-07-28 10:36                                   ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-07-29 15:31                                     ` Andreas Färber
2007-04-10 11:17                       ` IRQ handling " Jamie Lokier
2007-04-09  0:41                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: IRQ handling Paul Brook
2007-04-09 11:11                     ` J. Mayer
2007-04-09 13:58                       ` Paul Brook
2007-04-09 14:56                         ` J. Mayer
2007-04-09 16:57                           ` Paul Brook
2007-04-07 23:26         ` [Qemu-devel] qemu Makefile.target vl.h hw/acpi.c hw/adlib.c Fabrice Bellard
2007-04-08 13:06           ` Wang Cheng Yeh
2007-04-08 13:56             ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-04-08 22:45           ` Paul Brook
2007-04-07 21:20       ` Thiemo Seufer

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