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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] Re: expose host CPU features to guests
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 14:07:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070909130725.GF24240@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46E3ED2B.6080606@qumranet.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> Let's start with '-cpu host' as 'cpu host-cpuid' and implement '-cpu 
> host-os' on the first bug report?  I have a feeling we won't ever see it.

I have a feeling you won't ever see it either, but not because it's a
missing feature.

Instead, I think a very small number of users will spend hours
frustrated that some obscure guest doesn't work properly on their
obscure x86 hardware, then they will learn that they should not use
"-cpuid host" for that guest on that hardware, even though it works
fine with other guests, and then their problem will be solved (albeit
at a cost), and seen as such an obscure combination that it might
never be reported to Qemu developers.

In other words, host-os is what _I'd_ implement because I care too
much about the poor obscure users and think it's the safe option, but
I'm not doing the implementing here ;-)

If you are curious what the differences are, do this in a current
Linux source tree:

    egrep -R '(set|clear)_bit\(X86_FEATURE' arch/{i386,x86_64}/kernel

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-09 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-05 17:45 [Qemu-devel] expose host CPU features to guests danken
2007-09-05 19:26 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-09-05 19:34   ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-05 19:44     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-09-06  0:30       ` Paul Brook
2007-09-06  8:46         ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-07 10:47   ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09  7:51     ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 12:47       ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 12:55         ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 13:07           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2007-09-09 13:14             ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 15:25             ` Paul Brook
2007-09-09 15:29               ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 15:47                 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 16:12                 ` Paul Brook
2007-09-09 16:38                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-10 16:53                   ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-10  7:40 ` [Qemu-devel] expose host CPU features to guests: Take 2 Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-10 11:47   ` Natalia Portillo
2007-09-10 12:01     ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-07 16:18       ` Natalia Portillo
2007-09-11 19:48         ` Luke -Jr
2007-09-10 17:16       ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-24 17:41   ` [Qemu-devel] expose host CPU features to guests: Take 3 Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25  1:28     ` andrzej zaborowski
2007-09-25  8:48       ` [kvm-devel] " Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25  9:01         ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25  9:19           ` J. Mayer
2007-09-25  9:31             ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 10:40               ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 11:09                 ` J. Mayer
2007-09-25 11:36                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 12:05                     ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-09-25 13:07                     ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-09-25 13:12                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 13:27                       ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25 15:54                       ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-25 16:15                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 12:51               ` Paul Brook
2007-09-25 13:13                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25  9:29       ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-10-07 12:38     ` [Qemu-devel] x86 -cpu option: Take 4 Dan Kenigsberg

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