From: Thiemo Seufer <ths@networkno.de>
To: "J. Mayer" <l_indien@magic.fr>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] RFC: reverse-endian softmmu memory accessors
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:53:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071013225354.GP3379@networkno.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1192313247.9976.356.camel@rapid>
J. Mayer wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 16:17 +0200, J. Mayer wrote:
> > On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 16:07 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > On 10/13/07, J. Mayer <l_indien@magic.fr> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 13:47 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > > > On 10/13/07, J. Mayer <l_indien@magic.fr> wrote:
> > > > > > The problem:
> > > > > > some CPU architectures, namely PowerPC and maybe others, offers
> > > > > > facilities to access the memory or I/O in the reverse endianness, ie
> > > > > > little-endian instead of big-endian for PowerPC, or provide instruction
> > > > > > to make memory accesses in the "reverse-endian". This is implemented as
> > > > > > a global flag on some CPU. This case is already handled by the PowerPC
> > > > > > emulation but is is far from being optimal. Some other implementations
> > > > > > allow the OS to store an "reverse-endian" flag in the TLB or the segment
> > > > > > descriptors, thus providing per-page or per-segment endianness control.
> > > > > > This is mostly used to ease driver migration from a PC platform to
> > > > > > PowerPC without taking any care of the device endianness in the driver
> > > > > > code (yes, this is bad...).
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice, this may be useful for Sparc64. It has a global CPU flag for
> > > > > endianness, individual pages can be marked as reverse endian, and
> > > > > finally there are instructions that access memory in reverse endian.
> > > > > The end result is a XOR of all these reverses. Though I don't know if
> > > > > any of these features are used at all.
> > > >
> > > > I realized that I/O accesses for reverse-endian pages were not correct
> > > > in the softmmu_template.h header. This new version fixes this. It also
> > > > remove duplicated code in the case of unaligned accesses in a
> > > > reverse-endian page.
> > >
> > > I think 64 bit access case is not handled correctly, but to solve that
> > > it would be nice to extend the current IO access system to 64 bits.
> >
> > I think that if it was previously correct, it should still be, but... I
> > don't know how much having 64 bits I/O accesses is interresting, as I
> > don't know if there are real hw buses that have 64 bits data path...
> >
> > Here's another version taking care of your remark about ldl memory
> > accessors.
> > * I replaced all ldl occurences with ldul
> > * when TARGET_LONG_BITS == 64, I also added ldsl accessors. And I
> > started using it in the PowerPC memory access micro-ops.
> > Then the patch is really more invasive than the previous ones.
> > This still does not break PowerPC or i386 target, as it seems.
>
> Here's a new version. The only change is that, for consistency, I did
> add the big-endian and little-endian accessors that were documented in
> cpu-all.h as unimplemented. The implementation is quite trivial, having
> native and reverse-endian accessors available, and changes functionnally
> nothing to the previous version.
The previous version works fine here, FWIW.
Thiemo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-13 22:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-13 9:56 [Qemu-devel] RFC: reverse-endian softmmu memory accessors J. Mayer
2007-10-13 10:47 ` Blue Swirl
2007-10-13 12:43 ` J. Mayer
2007-10-13 13:07 ` Blue Swirl
2007-10-13 14:17 ` J. Mayer
2007-10-13 22:07 ` J. Mayer
2007-10-13 22:53 ` Thiemo Seufer [this message]
2007-10-14 8:19 ` Blue Swirl
2007-10-14 10:14 ` J. Mayer
2007-10-14 13:22 ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-10-15 11:55 ` J. Mayer
2007-10-13 13:02 ` Thiemo Seufer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-14 11:49 J. Mayer
2007-10-14 12:59 ` Blue Swirl
2007-10-15 12:10 ` J. Mayer
2007-10-15 16:02 ` Blue Swirl
2007-10-15 17:45 ` Blue Swirl
2007-10-16 20:27 ` J. Mayer
2007-11-23 12:55 ` Tero Kaarlela
2007-10-15 21:06 ` J. Mayer
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