From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:02:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071211150228.GD17368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475EA3F4.50802@codemonkey.ws>
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:51:32AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Dor Laor wrote:
> >Laurent Vivier wrote:
> >>Le mardi 11 décembre 2007 à 10:10 +0100, Fabrice Bellard a écrit :
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>>At this point I am not interested in integrating it into QEMU as it is
> >>>one more API level to maintain in addition to the command line monitor.
> >>>However, I can change my mind if several projects insists to have a
> >>>similar interface.
> >>>
> >>
> >>perhaps the DBUS interface can replace the command line monitor ?
> >>We have just to move the command line interface to a client speaking to
> >>qemu through the DBUS interface.
> >>
> >>
> >This is a valid option but the problem is that local user will have to
> >use another tool (client) to
> >send commands. Another option is to have a common backend with machine
> >& user interfaces.
> >For example, if we use dbus as the backend, monitor commands will just
> >be translated into dbus.
> >The opposite option is also valid.
> >
> >Anyway, the motivation behind a new interface is that the monitor
> >interface is not good enough for automation:
> >There are not return status for commands, no option for async
> >notifications, no option for parallel actions in case
> >a command takes long time to complete (like snapshot).
>
> All of these are valid, and addressable. Return statuses can just be
> added to the beginning of the output of each command (similar to how
> POP3 works). Async notification can be made to work by add support to
> the monitor for a "select" command. Semantically, select would block
> the monitor and then output events. For this to work really well, you
> would have to support multiple simultaneous monitor sessions. The
> parallel options for long running commands is already address in KVM
> with the migration command. We just have to rework the snapshotting to
> be properly asynchronous.
Or have 2 monitor interaction modes. One mode uses the command line style
suitable for people / scripting languages. The other umode ses a binary XDR
protocol for serializing the args & returns values for formal control
APIs to use in a easy manner. It ought to be reasonably straightforward to
add a binary serialization format for all existing commands
Dan.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-11 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-10 8:28 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-10 20:51 ` Blue Swirl
2007-12-11 7:16 ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11 9:10 ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11 9:23 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:06 ` Brad Campbell
2007-12-11 10:07 ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:21 ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11 15:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:18 ` Paul Brook
2007-12-11 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 15:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2007-12-11 15:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:40 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:58 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 17:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:59 ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 15:17 ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2007-12-11 15:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 10:20 ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:29 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:50 ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:21 ` Heikki Lindholm
2007-12-11 11:05 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 14:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:07 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:10 ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11 14:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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