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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:02:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071211150228.GD17368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475EA3F4.50802@codemonkey.ws>

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 08:51:32AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Dor Laor wrote:
> >Laurent Vivier wrote:
> >>Le mardi 11 décembre 2007 à 10:10 +0100, Fabrice Bellard a écrit :
> >>  
> >>>Hi,
> >>>    
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>  
> >>>At this point I am not interested in integrating it into QEMU as it is 
> >>>one more API level to maintain in addition to the command line monitor. 
> >>>However, I can change my mind if several projects insists to have a 
> >>>similar interface.
> >>>    
> >>
> >>perhaps the DBUS interface can replace the command line monitor ?
> >>We have just to move the command line interface to a client speaking to
> >>qemu through the DBUS interface.
> >>
> >>  
> >This is a valid option but the problem is that local user will have to 
> >use another tool (client) to
> >send commands. Another option is to have a common backend with machine 
> >& user interfaces.
> >For example, if we use dbus as the backend, monitor commands will just 
> >be translated into dbus.
> >The opposite option is also valid.
> >
> >Anyway, the motivation behind a new interface is that the monitor 
> >interface is not good enough for automation:
> >There are not return status for commands, no option for async 
> >notifications, no option for parallel actions in case
> >a command takes long time to complete (like snapshot).
> 
> All of these are valid, and addressable.  Return statuses can just be 
> added to the beginning of the output of each command (similar to how 
> POP3 works).  Async notification can be made to work by add support to 
> the monitor for a "select" command.  Semantically, select would block 
> the monitor and then output events.   For this to work really well, you 
> would have to support multiple simultaneous monitor sessions.  The 
> parallel options for long running commands is already address in KVM 
> with the migration command.  We just have to rework the snapshotting to 
> be properly asynchronous.

Or have 2 monitor interaction modes. One mode uses the command line style
suitable for people / scripting languages. The other umode ses a binary XDR
protocol for serializing the args & returns values for formal control
APIs to use in a easy manner. It ought to be reasonably straightforward to
add a binary serialization format for all existing commands

Dan.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-11 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-10  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-10 20:51 ` Blue Swirl
2007-12-11  7:16   ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11  9:10     ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11  9:23       ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:06         ` Brad Campbell
2007-12-11 10:07         ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 14:51           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:00             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:21               ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11 15:31                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:36                 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:18                     ` Paul Brook
2007-12-11 16:40                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 15:02             ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2007-12-11 15:15               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:40                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:48                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:58                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:49                       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 17:04                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:59                     ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 15:17             ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2007-12-11 15:24               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 10:20         ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:29           ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:50             ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:21         ` Heikki Lindholm
2007-12-11 11:05       ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 14:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 14:56         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:57           ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:07             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:44     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:10       ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11 14:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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