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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Yuval Kashtan <yuvalkashtan@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:31:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071211153121.GG17368@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f6ea40220712110721i5ed132e2j38018226eff3e072@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 05:21:08PM +0200, Yuval Kashtan wrote:
> As I can see,
> There is HUGH interest in management API for QEMU.
> seemly, DBus is NOT the right solution for direct integration into QEMU as
> it is not cross platform enough, pose extra dependency and (probably) not
> suitable for embedded systems.
> 
> Keeping only the "old" monitor interface with no formal interface will make
> QEMU harder to integrate with as it requires extra work

The monitor does have an initial barrier to entry, but that can be addressed
by providing a C API which sends & receives monitor commands. This does not
require any intrusive modification of QEMU, at most incremental enhancements
to make the monitor more complete.

> C API is not a complete solution as it does not define well enough how will
> you integrate with QEMU without changing or adding to the source..
> But combined with AVI's idea of some plug-in mechanism, which will use this
> C API, it sounds like a complete and valid solution.

You are now exposing the internals of QEMU as a stable ABI which has to be 
maintained indefinittely to avoid breaking these out-of-tree plugins. THis
does not sound like a winning solution since it'll dramatically restrict 
the scope of future development of QEMU code.

Regards,
Dan.
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-11 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-10  8:28 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] QEMU Dbus support - a proposal management API Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-10 20:51 ` Blue Swirl
2007-12-11  7:16   ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11  9:10     ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11  9:23       ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:06         ` Brad Campbell
2007-12-11 10:07         ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 14:51           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:00             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:21               ` Yuval Kashtan
2007-12-11 15:31                 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2007-12-11 15:36                 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:18                     ` Paul Brook
2007-12-11 16:40                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 15:02             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:15               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:40                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:48                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 15:58                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:49                       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 17:04                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:59                     ` Dor Laor
2007-12-11 15:17             ` Jean-Christian de Rivaz
2007-12-11 15:24               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 10:20         ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:29           ` Laurent Vivier
2007-12-11 10:50             ` Andreas Färber
2007-12-11 10:21         ` Heikki Lindholm
2007-12-11 11:05       ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 14:43         ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-11 14:56         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 15:57           ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-11 16:07             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2007-12-11 15:44     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-12-11 16:10       ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-12-11 14:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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