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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu cpu-all.h exec.c
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:12:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801031612.14804.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f43fc5580801030757q1428a13cu6be9d74f7d911dde@mail.gmail.com>

On Thursday 03 January 2008, Blue Swirl wrote:
> On 1/3/08, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Blue Swirl wrote:
> > > On 1/2/08, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> > > > > Also the opaque parameter may need to be different for each
> > > > > function, it just didn't matter for the unassigned memory case.
> > > >
> > > > Do you really have systems where independent devices need to respond
> > > > to different sized accesses to the same address?
> > >
> > > I don't think so. But one day unassigned or even normal RAM memory
> > > access may need an opaque parameter, so passing the device's opaque to
> > > unassigned memory handler is wrong.
> >
> > I'm not convinced.  Your current implementation seems to introduce an
> > extra level of indirection without any plausible benefit.
> >
> > If you're treating unassigned memory differently it needs to be handled
> > much earlier that so you can raise CPU exceptions.
>
> Earlier, where's that?

Probably when populating the TLB entry. IIRC by the time we get to the IO 
callbacks we don't have enough information to generate a CPU exception.

> Another approach could be conditional stacked handlers, where a higher
> level handler could pass the access request to lower one (possibly
> modifying it in flight) or handle completely. Maybe this solves the
> longstanding generic DMA issue if taken to the device to memory
> direction.

I'm not so sure. RAM is special because it's direct mapped by the TLB rather 
than going through the (much slower) MMIO handling routines.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-03 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-01 16:57 [Qemu-devel] qemu cpu-all.h exec.c Blue Swirl
2008-01-01 21:42 ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-01-02 16:42   ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-02 17:18     ` Paul Brook
2008-01-02 17:31       ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-03  1:18         ` Paul Brook
2008-01-03 15:57           ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-03 16:12             ` Paul Brook [this message]
2008-01-03 16:53             ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-01-03 19:44               ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-03 20:16                 ` Paul Brook
2008-01-04 20:36                   ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-04 22:43                     ` Paul Brook
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-26 17:36 Blue Swirl
2007-04-04  7:55 Jocelyn Mayer
2005-10-30 20:48 Fabrice Bellard
2005-02-10 21:56 Fabrice Bellard

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