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From: Rick Vernam <rickv@hobi.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:55:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200802201355.48502.rickv@hobi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47BC790D.40409@codemonkey.ws>

On Wednesday 20 February 2008 01:01:33 pm Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 04:31:56PM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> >> Ian Jackson wrote:
> >>> Paul Brook writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error 
handling"):
> >>>> Disk full is a fundamentally unfriendly situation to be in. There is
> >>>> no good answer. Reporting errors back to the host has its own set of
> >>>> problems. Many guest OS effectively just lock up when this occurs.
> >>>
> >>> I think that's fine, surely ?  A locked up guest isn't very nice but
> >>> it's better than a guest shot dead.
> >>
> >> Well, a guest which receives an IDE write error might do things like
> >> mark parts of the device bad, to avoiding writing to those parts.  If
> >> the guest is running software RAID, for example, it will radically
> >> change its behaviour in response to those errors.
> >>
> >> Sometimes that's what you want, but sometimes it is really unwanted.
> >> If the host runs out of disk space, ideally you might want to suspend
> >> the guest until you can free up host disk space (or move to another
> >> host), then resume the guest, perhaps manually.
> >>
> >> Is savevm-upon-disk-full a realistic prospect?
> >
> > In the 'out of disk space' scenario you wouldn't need to save the guest -
> > merely stop its CPU. This gives the host admin the opportunity to hot-add
> > storage to the host & then resume execution, or to kill the VM, or to
> > free enough space to save the VM to disk / live migrate it to another
> > host.
>
> I agree.  Stopping the CPUs and spitting out a big fat warning message
> would be the best thing to do.  For the average user, this would give
> the opportunity to free up some space if possible.

agreed.

>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
> > Shooting it dead on any I/O error doesn't give the host admin any choices
> > at all
> >
> > Dan.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-20 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 15:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-20 16:13   ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:19   ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:23     ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-20 16:37       ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:46         ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:53           ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-20 18:17               ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:38                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-20 18:22               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-20 19:01                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-02-20 19:55                   ` Rick Vernam [this message]
2008-02-21  7:10                     ` Thomas Irlet
2008-02-21 17:19   ` Ben Taylor
2008-02-21 17:24     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-21 17:28       ` risc
2008-02-21 18:24         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-03-28 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Jackson
2008-04-26 15:15   ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-29 16:27     ` Ian Jackson

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