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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:22:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080220182252.GH14209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080220163155.GA5520@shareable.org>

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 04:31:56PM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Paul Brook writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling"):
> > > Disk full is a fundamentally unfriendly situation to be in. There is no good 
> > > answer. Reporting errors back to the host has its own set of problems. Many 
> > > guest OS effectively just lock up when this occurs.
> > 
> > I think that's fine, surely ?  A locked up guest isn't very nice but
> > it's better than a guest shot dead.
> 
> Well, a guest which receives an IDE write error might do things like
> mark parts of the device bad, to avoiding writing to those parts.  If
> the guest is running software RAID, for example, it will radically
> change its behaviour in response to those errors.
> 
> Sometimes that's what you want, but sometimes it is really unwanted.
> If the host runs out of disk space, ideally you might want to suspend
> the guest until you can free up host disk space (or move to another
> host), then resume the guest, perhaps manually.
> 
> Is savevm-upon-disk-full a realistic prospect?

In the 'out of disk space' scenario you wouldn't need to save the guest - merely
stop its CPU. This gives the host admin the opportunity to hot-add storage
to the host & then resume execution, or to kill the VM, or to free enough
space to save the VM to disk / live migrate it to another host. 

Shooting it dead on any I/O error doesn't give the host admin any choices
at all

Dan.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-20 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 15:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-20 16:13   ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:19   ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:23     ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-20 16:37       ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:46         ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:53           ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-20 18:17               ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:38                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-20 18:22               ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2008-02-20 19:01                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-02-20 19:55                   ` Rick Vernam
2008-02-21  7:10                     ` Thomas Irlet
2008-02-21 17:19   ` Ben Taylor
2008-02-21 17:24     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-21 17:28       ` risc
2008-02-21 18:24         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-03-28 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Jackson
2008-04-26 15:15   ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-29 16:27     ` Ian Jackson

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