qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Threading Qemu
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 13:39:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080528123959.GD19738@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483D4FC8.5080708@bellard.org>

Fabrice Bellard wrote:
> I confirm, the general case is quite complicated. It is simpler to begin 
> with an implementation where the host and guest CPUs have the same 
> memory ordering constraints (e.g. x86 on x86 case).

I have just realised it is not _always_ correct even for x86 on x86,
for some flavours of x86 host CPU.

Qemu emulates a standard x86 with writes fully ordered.  Guest code
will assume that.

But a few types of x86 host don't fully order writes.  See
CONFIG_X86_OOSTORE and CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE in Linux kernels - look
in linux/arch/x86/Kconfig.cpu.

On those, running multiple target CPUs as host threads on a
multiprocessor host may not be correct.

I'm not sure if the "sfence" instruction means this could apply to
some modern, mainstream x86 hosts too.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-28 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-28  6:31 [Qemu-devel] Threading Qemu mixado
2008-05-28  7:40 ` Izik Eidus
2008-05-28 12:27   ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-05-28 12:39     ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-05-28 12:28   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-28 13:31     ` Paul Brook
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-28 10:40 Mikael Regnell

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20080528123959.GD19738@shareable.org \
    --to=jamie@shareable.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).