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From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@eu.citrix.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] merge some xen bits into qemu
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:48:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080807164843.GR6604@implementation.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <489B2023.8030101@redhat.com>

Gerd Hoffmann, le Thu 07 Aug 2008 18:17:39 +0200, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Gerd Hoffmann, le Thu 07 Aug 2008 14:13:22 +0200, a écrit :
> >>> Any reason for the renames, though? (they tend to bother developpers who
> >>> have to change their habits, so we can not do that without a reason)
> >> Get consistent naming (all xen stuff in hw/ is prefixed with xen-).
> > 
> > Err, no, in xen they are all prefixed with xen_ (except xenfb).
> 
> Uhm, No.

Right, there is xenstore as well.

> ~/xen/qemu-dm# grep ^OBJS xen-hooks.mak
> OBJS += piix4acpi.o
> [snip xen*]
> OBJS += exec-dm.o
> OBJS += pci_emulation.o
> OBJS += tpm_tis.o
> OBJS+= pass-through.o pt-msi.o
> OBJS := $(filter-out $(BAD_OBJS), $(OBJS))

These aren't really xen-specific, that's why they don't have a xen or
xen_ prefix.

> That is neither consistent wrt using _ everythere nor all files are
> prefixed consistently.  At least all prefixed ones use underscores.

And that's my point.  I don't see why we should take the burden of
renaming them with dashes.

> >> (3) The files in the qemu source tree don't have a consistent style
> >>     in respect to '-' vs. '_',
> > 
> > There are far more _ than - in qemu.

Just to comment on that. I actually meant in hw/ . There are a lot of -
in the root, because there are block-*, qemu-*, cpu-*, config-*, etc.

> - seems to be only used for
> > things that just share a very generic idea (i.e. usb- and scsi-), while
> > _ seems to be used for things that are more closely related, like arm_*,
> > mips_*, ppc_*, ... xen_* would make sense to my mind.
> 
> To me it looks pretty random,

I doesn't look so much random to me. There are oddities, but the rule
above seems mostly respected.

> And when you count them, then there is no clear winner:
> 
> ~/projects/qemu# find -name "*.[ch]" -print | grep "-" | wc -l
> 293
> ~/projects/qemu# find -name "*.[ch]" -print | grep "_" | wc -l
> 231

Sure, they have different purpose.  As I said, _ for closely related
(like must be compiled together), - for not closely related (i.e.
independant matter that just have some generic link, like the block
interface, scsi or usb bus).

> >> so I had no reason to not use my personal preference ;)
> > 
> > Yes, there is a reason: as I said, that puts a little burden on
> > developpers that have already been working on it in Xen for some time.
> > That also asks Ian to do the move, that makes history digging more
> > tricky, etc.
> 
> git handles renames just fine.

Yes, sure, that's what I meant before ("having a renaming step first").
But that's still work to actually do it, change the Makefiles, and then
when you want to git annotate an old version it becomes tricky: you have
to remember the old name.  So renaming really needs a reason.

> > For more performance, maybe it'd be better to only move the dpy_update()
> > part. It's better to do the xenfb_guest_copy() immediately since the
> > source data is probably already hot in the cache.
> 
> No.  The copy is unsafe.

Ah, because we're writing to ds->data which is handled by the display
backend, right.

Samuel

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-07 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-04 15:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] merge some xen bits into qemu Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/7] xen: groundwork for xen support Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 16:34   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 18:01     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 17:35   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-04 18:04     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/7] xen: backend driver core Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/7] xen: add console backend driver Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 16:52   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 18:15     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 20:47       ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/7] xen: add framebuffer " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 17:09   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 18:20     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/7] xen: add block device " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 17:26   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 17:37     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-04 17:46     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-04 19:50     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 20:04       ` Paul Brook
2008-08-05  7:18         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 20:58       ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-05  7:01         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 21:34       ` [Xen-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05  6:52         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-05 10:47           ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05 11:07             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-05 11:36               ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/7] xen: add net " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 15:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/7] xen: blk & nic configuration via cmd line Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 17:35   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 18:12     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-04 20:45       ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-04 17:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] merge some xen bits into qemu Anthony Liguori
2008-08-05  9:58   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-05 10:15     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05 10:46   ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05 11:12     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-05 11:29       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05 13:18         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-05 15:03           ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05 15:41             ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-05 15:46               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-05 16:07                 ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-05 15:47               ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 10:14               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 10:23                 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 12:43                   ` [Xen-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2008-08-06 12:50                     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 13:54                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 14:01                         ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 14:08                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 14:25                             ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 15:35                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 15:47                                 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 22:10                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 22:16                                     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 16:01                                 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-08-06 22:10                               ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07  7:33                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-07 10:53                                   ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 12:13                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-07 12:54                                       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 16:17                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-07 16:48                                           ` Samuel Thibault [this message]
2008-08-07 16:54                                             ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 16:09                                       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 16:34                                       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-11  8:16                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-11  9:23                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-08-11 10:12                                       ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-07 15:06                                   ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-07 15:13                                     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 15:13                                     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 15:21                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-08 15:24                                       ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-11 12:46                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-11 18:53                                           ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-08 11:03                                     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-07 17:40                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-08-11  9:18                         ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-11 11:08                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 13:24                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 13:39                     ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 14:18                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-06 14:51                         ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-06 15:25                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-11 16:36   ` [Qemu-devel] Xen's qemu branches, etc Ian Jackson
2008-08-11 16:48     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Xen-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2008-08-11 19:17     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-08-11 19:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found] <m2n.s.1KNSd3-002QXI@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-07-28 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/7] merge some xen bits into qemu Ian Jackson
2008-07-28 14:43   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-07-28 23:24     ` [Xen-devel] " Samuel Thibault

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