From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] xen: groundwork for xen support
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:50:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080826135031.GD19615@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18612.1018.415530.37831@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 02:24:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrange writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] xen: groundwork for xen support"):
> > This particular check is doing two different jobs in one go. I think
> > they need to be dealt with separately.
> >
> > - Check to see if running on Xen or not. This is a similar idea to
> > to pv_ops where we have one kernel binary, and probe at runtime
> > to decide whether to run in KVM, Xen, VMWare or bare metal mode.
>
> I don't think this is correct for the Xen case. Certainly it is not
> correct for a qemu invoked by the Xen management tools, and it is also
> not correct for a qemu invoked by hand on a system which already has
> xend etc.
>
> If you're trying to run qemu under Xen but standalone without xend
> then you're going to have to tell qemu that that's what you want.
> Otherwise if you try to run the same qemu under Xen but _with_ xend,
> qemu in dom0 will create a domain bypassing xend and cause all sorts
> of trouble.
Yes, mixing manually created VMs & XenD managed VMs is not a use case
I was thinking we should try to address. The core use case for creating
VMs on the Xen hypervisor, is that you want to avoid the python stack,
and thus you aren't likely to have XenD around anyway.
Daniel
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-21 16:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] merge some xen bits into qemu Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Handle terminating signals Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:11 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWGbo-001Nr9@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:44 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 12:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 12:36 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 12:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 13:38 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 14:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-26 17:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 15:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 15:08 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 15:28 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 18:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 18:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-27 9:46 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 16:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-27 16:35 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 17:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-27 18:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-28 9:34 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-07 2:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 15:36 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-26 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KXzwZ-002RA9@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 15:23 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:29 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KY0XT-002RJM@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 15:38 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 16:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-26 16:14 ` Julian Seward
2008-08-26 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-27 8:05 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-27 8:49 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-27 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-27 9:16 ` Keir Fraser
2008-08-27 9:12 ` Gleb Natapov
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KXz4u-002Qvq@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 14:55 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] add DisplayState->idle Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2008-08-21 20:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] add container_of() macro to osdep.h Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] move GUI_REFRESH_INTERVAL define from vl.c to console.h Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] xen: groundwork for xen support Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] xen: backend driver core Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] xen: add console backend driver Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] xen: add framebuffer " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] xen: add block device " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] xen: add net " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] xen: blk & nic configuration via cmd line Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] set vnc password from xenstore Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 20:19 ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 20:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 21:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 21:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 22:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-24 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-22 7:04 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-22 19:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 22:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-22 8:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-24 8:57 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-24 9:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-24 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-24 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 20:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 21:29 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 10:13 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-21 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 21:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWHfl-001Ntw@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:47 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] xen: pv domain builder Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDD7-002TB9@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] xen: groundwork for xen support Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 12:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 12:57 ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 13:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 13:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 13:33 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 14:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 14:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:40 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 14:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 19:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 8:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-27 9:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 9:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-27 10:00 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-27 10:37 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-27 10:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-27 11:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KXzR5-002R2A@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 15:05 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 13:24 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDfC-002TCd@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDGv-002TBJ@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDEt-002TBA@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] xen: pv domain builder Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 10:50 ` [Xen-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2008-08-26 13:43 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 21:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2008-08-26 12:55 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 13:14 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 13:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:19 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 20:00 ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-27 9:48 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 13:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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