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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	Uri Lublin <uri.lublin@qumranet.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/10] Allow the monitor to be suspended during non-blocking op
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:05:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080910100520.GE2662@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C76EB1.6040906@qumranet.com>

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:52:33AM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >Live migration happens in the background, but it is useful to make the 
> >monitor
> >command appear as if it's blocking.  This allows a management tool to
> >immediately know when the live migration has completed without having to 
> >poll
> >the migration status.
> >
> >This patch allows the monitor to be suspended from a monitor callback which
> >will prevent new monitor commands from being executed.
> >
> >  
> 
> This means that migration is no longer transparent.  While migration is 
> going on, you can't change the cdrom media, look at cpu registers, or do 
> anything that requires the monitor.

Changing cdrom media while in the middle of migration sounds like a rather
troubleprone thing todo - you'd need to change the media in both active
QEMU instances at the same time to be safe. Keeping access to the readonly
"info" family of commands though would be nice, and perhaps one or two
other commands known to be 'safe' - cont/stop would be two obvious ones

> This both reduces the functionality and complicates management 
> applications.  IMO migration should have asynchronous notification (and 
> no, I don't think multiple monitors is the correct solution).

Even better than async notification would be something like 'info migration'
to get stats on progress, so they could give user some indication of the
progress made migrating - particularly for VMs with large amounts of RAM
which may take non-negligable time to transfer. Once you're polling to get
migration progress info, there's no immediate need for async notification
since you just wait till it gets to '100%' or some other completion state

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-10 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-09 19:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] Live migration for QEMU Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/10] Refactor QEMUFile for live migration Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:25   ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 14:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 15:05     ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 15:16     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-12 15:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/10] Allow the monitor to be suspended during non-blocking op Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10  6:52   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 10:05     ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2008-09-10 11:11       ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 11:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-10 15:36           ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 15:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 15:58         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-11 10:16           ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-11 11:59             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-10 13:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:26     ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 10:01   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-10 13:11     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/10] Add bdrv_flush_all() Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:26   ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 14:46     ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 15:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 15:32         ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 15:39         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 16:37         ` Paul Brook
2008-09-12 15:43   ` Blue Swirl
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/10] Add dirty tracking for live migration Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 14:52   ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 14:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 15:01       ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/10] Add network announce function Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:27   ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 13:54     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 14:00     ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/10] Introduce v3 of savevm protocol Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10  7:09   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/10] Switch the memory savevm handler to be "live" Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 22:25   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09 22:49     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10  7:17   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 13:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/10] Introduce a buffered QEMUFile wrapper Anthony Liguori
2008-09-12 15:16   ` Blue Swirl
2008-09-09 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/10] Introduce the UI components for live migration Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] TCP based " Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 16:46   ` Blue Swirl
2008-09-10 16:51     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 12:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] Live migration for QEMU Atsushi SAKAI
2008-09-11 13:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 13:30     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-11 14:12       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 15:32         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-11 16:22           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 16:32             ` Avi Kivity

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