qemu-devel.nongnu.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	Uri Lublin <uri.lublin@qumranet.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/10] Allow the monitor to be suspended during non-blocking op
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:14:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080910111429.GK2662@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C7AB7C.30407@qumranet.com>

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 02:11:56PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> 
> >>This means that migration is no longer transparent.  While migration is 
> >>going on, you can't change the cdrom media, look at cpu registers, or do 
> >>anything that requires the monitor.
> >>    
> >
> >Changing cdrom media while in the middle of migration sounds like a rather
> >troubleprone thing todo - you'd need to change the media in both active
> >QEMU instances at the same time to be safe.
> 
> Or rather, such state should be part of the migration.  There's the 
> question of whether to transform the path on the target, but "which 
> media is in the drive" is part of the hardware state.
> 
> (logically we would copy all of the data of all block devices, but 
> that's not very practical, so we assume shared storage).
> 
> What other commands are unsafe during migration? I exclude host device 
> assignment which is obviously migration unfriendly.

USB + virtio device attach/detach - well at least have the same need as
media change - you'd need to propagate the change to the other side in
some way. Currently migrate just assumes the management tool/admin has
started QEMU on the destinations with the matching hardware config, and
for libvirt to use the monitor to add USB /virtio devices at both ends
has the race condition/synchronization problem .

Daniel
-- 
|: Red Hat, Engineering, London   -o-   http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :|
|: http://libvirt.org  -o-  http://virt-manager.org  -o-  http://ovirt.org :|
|: http://autobuild.org       -o-         http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :|
|: GnuPG: 7D3B9505  -o-  F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :|

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-10 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-09 19:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] Live migration for QEMU Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/10] Refactor QEMUFile for live migration Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:25   ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 14:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 15:05     ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 15:16     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-12 15:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/10] Allow the monitor to be suspended during non-blocking op Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10  6:52   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 10:05     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-10 11:11       ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 11:14         ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2008-09-10 15:36           ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 15:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 15:58         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-11 10:16           ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-11 11:59             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-10 13:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:26     ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 10:01   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-10 13:11     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/10] Add bdrv_flush_all() Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:26   ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 14:46     ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 15:19       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 15:32         ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 15:39         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 16:37         ` Paul Brook
2008-09-12 15:43   ` Blue Swirl
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/10] Add dirty tracking for live migration Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 14:52   ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-10 14:56     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 15:01       ` Glauber Costa
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/10] Add network announce function Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 13:27   ` Chris Lalancette
2008-09-10 13:54     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 14:00     ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/10] Introduce v3 of savevm protocol Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10  7:09   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-09 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/10] Switch the memory savevm handler to be "live" Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 22:25   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09 22:49     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10  7:17   ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-10 13:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/10] Introduce a buffered QEMUFile wrapper Anthony Liguori
2008-09-12 15:16   ` Blue Swirl
2008-09-09 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/10] Introduce the UI components for live migration Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] TCP based " Anthony Liguori
2008-09-10 16:46   ` Blue Swirl
2008-09-10 16:51     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 12:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] Live migration for QEMU Atsushi SAKAI
2008-09-11 13:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 13:30     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-11 14:12       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 15:32         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-11 16:22           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-11 16:32             ` Avi Kivity

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20080910111429.GK2662@redhat.com \
    --to=berrange@redhat.com \
    --cc=aliguori@us.ibm.com \
    --cc=avi@qumranet.com \
    --cc=chrisw@redhat.com \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel@nongnu.org \
    --cc=uri.lublin@qumranet.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).