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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: andrzej zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix vfork() syscall emulation
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:20:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080920142051.GA27083@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb249edb0809200652t3da3c7c5x66838cbadc3d5563@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 03:52:55PM +0200, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> 2008/9/20 Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill@shutemov.name>:
> > So, implementation vfork() using pthread is wrong.
> 
> Agreed, but implementation of vfork() using fork() is wrong, too.

Why? 

man 2 vfork():

BUGS
       It  is  rather  unfortunate  that Linux revived this specter from the
       past.  The BSD man page states: "This system call will be  eliminated
       when  proper system sharing mechanisms are implemented.  Users should
       not depend on the memory sharing semantics of vfork() as it will,  in
       that case, be made synonymous to fork(2)."

If any program doesn't work with vfork() implemented using fork(). it's 
program bug.


> If
> we allow a hack, it should be commented, the second thing that needs
> to be commented is why the value of CLONE_VM flag is ignored if
> CLONE_VFORK is set -- on Linux it's not ignored.

vfork() is a hack itself. It was introduced when fork() was very expensive.
Linux fork() is implemented using copy-on-write pages, so the only penalty 
incurred by fork() is the time and memory required to duplicate the parent's
page tables. It's quite cheap. So I think emulate vfork() using fork() is 
correct.

-- 
Regards,  Kirill A. Shutemov
 + Belarus, Minsk
 + ALT Linux Team, http://www.altlinux.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-20 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18 15:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix vfork() syscall emulation Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix getgroups() " Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Swap only altered elements of the grouplist Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix pread() and pwrite() syscall on ARM EABI Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Implement fstatat64() syscall Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Implement futimesat() syscall Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Imaplement ioctls MTIOCTOP, MTIOCGET and MTIOCPOS Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-18 15:07             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix building with 2.6.27 kernel headers Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-19 14:10               ` Riku Voipio
2008-09-19 14:04           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Implement futimesat() syscall Riku Voipio
2008-09-19 14:09         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Implement fstatat64() syscall Riku Voipio
2008-09-19 14:24           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-19 13:59     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Swap only altered elements of the grouplist Riku Voipio
2008-09-19 13:57   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix getgroups() syscall emulation Riku Voipio
2008-09-20  2:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Fix vfork() " andrzej zaborowski
2008-09-20  6:45   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-20 12:45     ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-09-20 13:11       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-20 13:52         ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-09-20 14:20           ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2008-09-20 14:35             ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-09-20 14:38               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-09-20  7:12   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
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2008-09-08 14:03 Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-08-24 15:54 Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-08-23  0:18 Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-08-24 14:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-24 15:51   ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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