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From: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Reallocate dma buffers in read/write path if needed
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:00:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810040100.28341.paul@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48E6AC36.3060404@codemonkey.ws>

On Saturday 04 October 2008, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Paul Brook wrote:
> > On Friday 03 October 2008, Ryan Harper wrote:
> >> The default buffer size breaks up larger read/write requests
> >> unnecessarily. When we encounter requests larger than the default dma
> >> buffer, reallocate the buffer to support the request.
> >
> > Allocating unboundedly large host buffers based on guest input seems like
> > a bad idea.
>
> Perhaps they could be at least bound to phys_ram_size.

That's still way too large.  It means that the maximum host footprint of qemu 
is many times the size of the guest RAM. There's a good chance that the host 
machine doesn't even have enough virtual address space to satisfy this 
request.

I expect that the only situation where you can only avoid breaking up large 
transfers when you have zero-copy IO.  Previous zero-copy/vectored IO patches 
suffered from a similar problem: It is not acceptable to allocate huge chunks 
of host ram when you fallback to normal IO.

> In general, I don't think there's a correct size to bound them that's
> less than phys_ram_size.  The guest may be issuing really big IO requests.

Qemu is perfectly capable of handling large IO requests by splitting them into 
multiple smaller requests. Enlarging the size of this buffer is just a 
secondary performance optimisation.

Admittedly we don't currently limit the number of simultaneous commands a 
guest can submit, but that's relatively easy to fix.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-04  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-03 22:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Improve emulated scsi write performance Ryan Harper
2008-10-03 22:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] lsi_queue_command: add dma direction parameter Ryan Harper
2008-10-03 22:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Refactor lsi_do_command to queue read and write ops Ryan Harper
2008-10-03 22:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Refactor scsi-disk layer for queue'ing writes Ryan Harper
2008-10-03 22:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Reallocate dma buffers in read/write path if needed Ryan Harper
2008-10-03 23:17   ` Paul Brook
2008-10-03 23:35     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-04  0:00       ` Paul Brook [this message]
2008-10-04 10:00       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]         ` <20081004135749.pphehrhuw9w4gwsc@imap.linux.ibm.com>
2008-10-04 21:47           ` Ryan Harper
2008-10-04 22:22             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-05  5:23               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-05 23:06               ` Ryan Harper
2008-10-06  7:27                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-04 23:00             ` Paul Brook
2008-10-05  5:29             ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-05 23:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Improve emulated scsi write performance Ryan Harper
2008-10-13 16:15   ` Ryan Harper

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