From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: jamie@shareable.org
Cc: jan.kiszka@web.de, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [5578] Increase default IO timeout from 10ms to 5s
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:19:58 -0700 (MST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081105.221958.756907011.imp@bsdimp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081106005312.GA26173@shareable.org>
In message: <20081106005312.GA26173@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> writes:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > : > Which ones have a good kernel implementation of it? FreeBSD's is
: > : > currently approximately:
: > : >
: > : > if (!mask)
: > : > _sigprocmask(mask, &oldmask);
: > : > /* here */
: > : > select();
: > : > if (!mask)
: > : > _sigprocmask(oldmask, NULL);
: > : >
: > : > I'm assuming that the problem is due to a signal arriving at /* here */.
: > :
: > : If that's _kernel_ code and the kernel behaves like Linux, it's not a
: > : problem because signals don't affect the control flow until returning
: > : to userspace, meaning the select() will return EINTR.
: >
: > It is currently user level code, and I'm looking at moving it into the
: > kernel, but I need to understand the race being talked about here.
:
: Ugh, I had imagined FreeBSD would have got that right, since it's
: quite good in other areas. I've added FreeBSD to my blacklist of
: broken pselect() implementations, thanks for the info.
:
: Do you know if FreeBSD's pread() and pwrite() are also thread-unsafe
: userspace wrappers using lseek+read/write? They are harder to avoid
: when you're looking at high performance code.
I haven't looked...
: > Why is it no good. What is the race here? Is it just the oldmask
: > thing and multiple callers to select, or is it something else?
:
: It's racy with a single caller. The race is: program's signal handler
: sets a flag like "alarm_happened = 1". The program's main loop checks
: the flag before calling select(). If the signal is delivered before
: that check, the program doesn't call select() and handles the reason
: for the flag. If the signal is delivered during select(), that
: returns EINTR and the program handles the reason for the flag. But if
: the signal is delivered _between_ checking the flag and calling
: select(), the program gets stuck.
:
: pselect() avoids that stuck state, by blocking the signal before the
: program checks the flag, and guaranteeing if the signal is delivered
: after that point, pselect() returns EINTR. It's sort of analogous to
: pthread_cond_wait() needing a mutex.
OK. that makes sense.
: > And if it is the oldmask thing, why wouldn't multiple callers of
: > pselect mess it up depending on what order they have.
:
: Signal masks are per-thread anyway, multiple callers isn't an issue.
OK. I have never had good things happen with signals and threads...
Warner
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-06 5:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-31 18:40 [Qemu-devel] [5578] Increase default IO timeout from 10ms to 5s Anthony Liguori
2008-10-31 18:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-02 19:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-11-03 20:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-03 20:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-03 21:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-03 22:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-03 22:03 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-04 8:07 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-04 8:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-04 8:33 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-04 11:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-04 16:22 ` M. Warner Losh
2008-11-04 17:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-04 17:55 ` M. Warner Losh
2008-11-04 19:08 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-05 15:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-05 16:10 ` M. Warner Losh
2008-11-05 18:21 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-11-05 18:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-11-05 20:16 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-05 20:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-11-05 23:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-06 0:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-06 5:19 ` M. Warner Losh [this message]
2008-11-04 8:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-31 19:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2008-10-31 20:13 ` Anthony Liguori
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