From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:51:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081106145142.GA29861@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <491301C9.40506@codemonkey.ws>
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 08:40:09AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Paul Brook wrote:
>>> You see time drift with 100hz timers in the guest?? That makes very
>>> little sense as even without hr timers, the host should have no problem
>>> delivering a 10ms timer.
>>>
>>
>> If your host has HZ=100 and no HR timers than a 10ms interval is fairly
>> borderline, and it's not that hard to end up missing an interrupt,
>> especially under heavy load.
>>
>
> If the host is otherwise idle, then the guest should have ample time to
> run. With /dev/rtc, you should be able to get a reliably 1ms timer.
And only one guest.
BTW I am saying that guest timer is 100HZ since I assume that windows2003
behaves like XP in this regard, but may be default timer frequency of 2003
is different. I'll check this.
>
> Gleb: are you perhaps using a qcow2 file in conjunction with -snapshot?
I am using qcow2, but without -snapshot.
> If that's the case, and you're doing an IO intensive workload, then you
> would be expanding the qcow2 file and updating the metadata is
> synchronous. This could cause lost time for the guest.
>
I think that's what happens when I see a huge drift, yes.
> If you are using qcow2, can you still reproduce with a raw file and not
> using -snapshot?
I'll try next week to run with a raw file.
>
>> If part of qemu gets swapped out then all bets are off, and you can
>> easily stall for significant fractions of a second. No amount of host
>> high resolution time support will help you there.
>>
>
> Running a steady workload, you aren't going to be partially swapped.
>
We want to oversubscribe host as much as possible, and workload will
vary during a lifetime of the VMs.
--
Gleb.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-06 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Change qemu_set_irq() to return status information Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Fix time drift problem under high load when PIT is in use Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Fix time drift problem under high load when RTC " Gleb Natapov
2008-11-05 12:46 ` Dor Laor
2008-10-31 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load Anthony Liguori
2008-11-02 13:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-05 12:45 ` Dor Laor
2008-11-05 15:48 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-05 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 7:16 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 9:37 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 10:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 13:21 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 14:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 14:35 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 15:04 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 15:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-07 23:18 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-08 8:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 13:44 ` Paul Brook
2008-11-05 17:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 17:28 ` David S. Ahern
2008-11-05 16:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 3:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-06 8:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 14:24 ` Paul Brook
2008-11-06 14:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 14:51 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2008-11-06 15:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-08 8:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-08 22:14 ` Dor Laor
2008-11-09 7:40 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-09 16:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-09 21:00 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 16:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 14:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-10 15:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 15:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-10 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 15:51 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-11 14:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-11 17:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-11 20:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-12 11:42 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-12 11:54 ` Glauber Costa
2008-11-12 12:38 ` Dor Laor
2008-11-06 3:41 ` Jamie Lokier
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