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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load.
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:51:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081106145142.GA29861@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <491301C9.40506@codemonkey.ws>

On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 08:40:09AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Paul Brook wrote:
>>> You see time drift with 100hz timers in the guest??  That makes very
>>> little sense as even without hr timers, the host should have no problem
>>> delivering a 10ms timer.
>>>     
>>
>> If your host has HZ=100 and no HR timers than a 10ms interval is fairly 
>> borderline, and it's not that hard to end up missing an interrupt, 
>> especially under heavy load.
>>   
>
> If the host is otherwise idle, then the guest should have ample time to  
> run.  With /dev/rtc, you should be able to get a reliably 1ms timer.
And only one guest.

BTW I am saying that guest timer is 100HZ since I assume that windows2003
behaves like XP in this regard, but may be default timer frequency of 2003
is different. I'll check this.

>
> Gleb: are you perhaps using a qcow2 file in conjunction with -snapshot?   
I am using qcow2, but without -snapshot.

> If that's the case, and you're doing an IO intensive workload, then you  
> would be expanding the qcow2 file and updating the metadata is  
> synchronous.  This could cause lost time for the guest.
>
I think that's what happens when I see a huge drift, yes.

> If you are using qcow2, can you still reproduce with a raw file and not  
> using -snapshot?
I'll try next week to run with a raw file.

>
>> If part of qemu gets swapped out then all bets are off, and you can 
>> easily stall for significant fractions of a second. No amount of host 
>> high resolution time support will help you there.
>>   
>
> Running a steady workload, you aren't going to be partially swapped.
>
We want to oversubscribe host as much as possible, and workload will
vary during a lifetime of the VMs.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-06 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Change qemu_set_irq() to return status information Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Fix time drift problem under high load when PIT is in use Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Fix time drift problem under high load when RTC " Gleb Natapov
2008-11-05 12:46   ` Dor Laor
2008-10-31 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load Anthony Liguori
2008-11-02 13:04   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-05 12:45     ` Dor Laor
2008-11-05 15:48       ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-05 16:33         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06  7:16         ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06  9:37           ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 10:08             ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 13:21               ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 14:18                 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 14:35                   ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 15:04                     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 15:41                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-07 23:18                       ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-08  8:23                         ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 13:44               ` Paul Brook
2008-11-05 17:43       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 17:28       ` David S. Ahern
2008-11-05 16:43     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06  3:55       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-06  8:12       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 14:10         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 14:24           ` Paul Brook
2008-11-06 14:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 14:51               ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2008-11-06 15:37                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-08  8:36                   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-08 22:14                     ` Dor Laor
2008-11-09  7:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-09 16:38                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-09 21:00                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 16:36                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 14:37                       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-10 15:24                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 15:29                           ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-10 15:46                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 15:51                               ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-11 14:43                               ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-11 17:26                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-11 20:17                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-12 11:42                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-12 11:54                                     ` Glauber Costa
2008-11-12 12:38                                       ` Dor Laor
2008-11-06  3:41     ` Jamie Lokier

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