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From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: andrzej zaborowski <balrogg@gmail.com>
Cc: dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load.
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:23:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081108082316.GA19381@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb249edb0811071518x1277c010hb748a8a696167a49@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:18:00AM +0100, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
> 2008/11/6 Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>:
> >> >> >> This doesn't matter, the tick that arrived while a previous interrupt
> >> >> >> was not acked yet, is lost anyway,
> >> >> > Not it is not. Not necessary. It can be queued inside PIC and delivered
> >> >> > by PIC itself immediately after interrupt acknowledgement.
> >> >>
> >> >>  You can argue that it's the new irq that's lost or it's the first one
> >> >> that was lost, either way the PIC only sees one time the irq rising,
> >> >> instead of two.  That means they were coalesced.
> >> > Nothing is lost and PIC sees two irq rising. Example:
> >> > - RTC triggers first interrupt.
> >> > - It is delivered to PIC. PIC sets corespondent bit in IRR.
> >> > - CPU picks up RTC interrupt and it's bit is cleared from IRR bitmap.
> >> > - CPU jumps to RTC IRQ routing but before it gets a chance to acknowledge
> >> >  IRQ to PIC new timer is triggered.
> >> > - With your patch you increment irq_coalesced in that case.
> >> > - Interrupt is delivered to PIC.
> >>
> >> No, it isn't (unless the PIC is poorly implemented).  We raise the
> >> irq, but since it's already high, nothing happens, there's no rising
> >> edge.
> >>
> > That would be the case if RTC used level triggered interrupts, but
> > RTC and PIT are edge-trigered. That is how they behave like it or not.
> 
> Sorry, I'm not taking this at all.  If this was the case it would be
> completely broken, but I just had a look at i8259 and the
> implementation seems to be correct.
> 
> The two devices are connected with only one line.  The signal on the
> line can be in one of two states (levels).  After the first tick it
> becomes high.  It stays high until a read to RTC_REG_C clears it.  The
> second call to qemu_irq_raise does not change the level, there's no
> edge.  If there's no event, how possibly can there be a reaction?
> 
Yes, I was wrong about how RTC behaves. I described how PIT works. PIT
generates square wave and does not wait for acknowledgement from an OS.
For RTC you suggestion will mostly work and will needlessly re-inject
only those ticks that were generated when RTC interrupt vector was masked.
Don't know how often this happens in reality.

--
			Gleb.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-08  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Change qemu_set_irq() to return status information Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Fix time drift problem under high load when PIT is in use Gleb Natapov
2008-10-29 15:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Fix time drift problem under high load when RTC " Gleb Natapov
2008-11-05 12:46   ` Dor Laor
2008-10-31 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [RESEND][PATCH 0/3] Fix guest time drift under heavy load Anthony Liguori
2008-11-02 13:04   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-05 12:45     ` Dor Laor
2008-11-05 15:48       ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-05 16:33         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06  7:16         ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06  9:37           ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 10:08             ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 13:21               ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 14:18                 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 14:35                   ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-06 15:04                     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 15:41                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-07 23:18                       ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-11-08  8:23                         ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2008-11-06 13:44               ` Paul Brook
2008-11-05 17:43       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 17:28       ` David S. Ahern
2008-11-05 16:43     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06  3:55       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-06  8:12       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 14:10         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 14:24           ` Paul Brook
2008-11-06 14:40             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-06 14:51               ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-06 15:37                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-08  8:36                   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-08 22:14                     ` Dor Laor
2008-11-09  7:40                     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-09 16:38                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-09 21:00                         ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-09 16:36                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 14:37                       ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-10 15:24                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 15:29                           ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-10 15:46                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-10 15:51                               ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-11 14:43                               ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-11 17:26                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-11 20:17                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-12 11:42                                   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-11-12 11:54                                     ` Glauber Costa
2008-11-12 12:38                                       ` Dor Laor
2008-11-06  3:41     ` Jamie Lokier

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