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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replace posix-aio with custom thread pool
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:12:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081211131222.GA14908@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081210190810.GG18814@random.random>

My current feeling is that this user thread aio thing will never
satisfy enterprise usage and kernel aio is mandatory in my view. I had
the same feeling before too, but I thought clone aio was desiderable
as intermediate step, because it could help whatever other unix host
OS that may not have native aio support. But if there's a problem with
opening the file multiple times (which btw is limiting the total
number of bdev to a dozen on a default ulimit -n with 64 max threads,
but it's probably ok), then we could as well stick to glibc aio, and
perhaps wait it to evolve with aio_readv/writev (probably backed by a
preadv/pwritev). And we should concentrate on kernel aio and get rid
of threads when host OS is linux. We can add a dependency where the
dma api will not bounce and linearize the buffer, only if the host
backend supports native aio.

Has anybody a patch implementing kernel aio that I can plug into the
dma zerocopy api? I'm not so sure clone aio is worth maintaining
inside qemu instead of evolving glibc and kernel with preadv/pwritev
for the long term.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-11 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-05 21:21 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replace posix-aio with custom thread pool Anthony Liguori
2008-12-06  9:03 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-06 18:26   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-08 18:23   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-09 15:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-09 16:01   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-10 16:44     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-10 17:21       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-10 17:29         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-10 18:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-10 19:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 13:12               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2008-12-11 15:24                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 15:53                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 16:11                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 16:49                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 17:20                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 18:11                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 20:38                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 20:40                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12  8:23                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-12 11:51                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 11:54                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-12 14:13                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 14:24                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 16:33                                       ` Chris Wright
2008-12-12 16:51                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 16:52                                           ` Chris Wright
2008-12-11 21:32                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-12  0:27                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 21:30                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-11 16:41                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 14:24               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 14:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 15:44                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 16:49                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 17:09                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 17:25                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 17:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:17                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 18:26                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 20:12                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-12 20:17                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:35                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-09 17:16   ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-17 14:44 ` Ian Jackson

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