From: Thiemo Seufer <ths@networkno.de>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Vmchannel PCI device.
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:18:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081215011819.GB12052@networkno.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081214233305.GA22151@redhat.com>
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
[snip]
> > If you don't have QEMU as a broker, it makes it very hard for QEMU to
> > virtualization all of the resources exposed to the guest. This
> > complicates things like save/restore and complicates security policies
> > since you now have things being done on behalf of a guest originating
> > from another process. It generally breaks the model of guest-as-a-process.
>
> This really depends on what you define the semantics of the vmchannel
> protocol to be - specifically whether you want save/restore/migrate to
> be totally opaque to the guest or not. I could imagine one option is to
> have the guest end of the device be given -EPIPE when the backend is
> restarted for restore/migrate, and choose to re-establish its connection
> if so desired. This would not require QEMU to maintain any backend state.
> For stateless datagram (UDP-like) application protocols there's nothing
> that there's no special support required for save/restore.
>
> > What's the argument to do these things external to QEMU?
>
> There are many potential uses cases for VMchannel,
Could you describe a practical use case of VMchannel in Qemu? I think I
missed what this feature is good for. :-)
> not all are going to be general purpose things that everyone wants to
> use.
If it is only good for specialized esoteric stuff, why should it be in
Qemu?
Thiemo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-15 1:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-14 11:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Vmchannel PCI device Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 12:28 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-14 13:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 19:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 22:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 9:20 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-15 9:25 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2008-12-15 15:43 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2008-12-14 22:13 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-14 22:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 23:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-15 1:18 ` Thiemo Seufer [this message]
2008-12-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 9:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-14 19:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-15 0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2008-12-15 1:50 ` Anthony Liguori
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