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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: dlaor@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mark nic as trusted
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:18:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090110021811.GJ1972@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090109104154.GA5164@redhat.com>

Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:14:33AM +0200, Dor Laor wrote:
> > Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > >Anthony Liguori wrote:
> > >  
> > >>Are we going to have a standard way of doing this in Linux distros such 
> > >>that these nics are treated differently from other nics?  Have we gotten 
> > >>the appropriate distro folks to agree to this?
> > >>    
> > >
> > >That wouldn't work for older distros and Windows anyway.  But you
> > >might reasonably want to run apps doing guest-host communication on
> > >older guest distros too, simply as an app, not requiring guest
> > >customisation.
> > >  
> > We can make fedora, rhel and libvirt support it. It might be a bit 
> > painful but since
> > a network device was chosen for this propose then that's the right way 
> > to go.
> 
> For new Fedora / RHEL yes, but a large number of people using virt are
> doing so with old OS versions, and the chances of anyone retro-fitting
> all old distros is near zero. You might get it done if they were back
> porting the VirtIO NIC devices to old distros, but almost certainly not
> for arbitrary NIC devices like rtl8139/e1000/etc because its a huge
> QA testing headache to avoid regressions.

In some circles, a major purpose of virtualisation is to run old OS
versions, either copied from machines where the hardware is aging to
keep a working system still working, or for compatibility testing.

Changing a working guest setup isn't cool.  Adding a small
monitoring/reporting app (e.g. that shows the machine's load average,
process table, network connections or whatever over a vmchannel) may
be cool, provided it has negligable impact, even if changing its
system configuration is not.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-10  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-07 14:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mark nic as trusted Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 15:04 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-07 15:19   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 15:41     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-07 16:02       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 16:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 16:50   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 17:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 17:54       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 18:41         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 19:26           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 19:46             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-08 19:58               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-08 21:26                 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-08 21:42                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-08 22:49                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-08 23:14                       ` Dor Laor
2009-01-09 10:41                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-01-10  2:18                           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-01-10 18:22                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-11  4:55                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-11  7:10                                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-01-11 14:08                                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-01-11 15:07                                     ` Dor Laor
2009-01-11 15:34                                       ` Blue Swirl
2009-01-11 16:01                                         ` Dor Laor
2009-01-12  2:20                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-12  8:05                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-12 12:26                                               ` Dor Laor
2009-01-10  2:27                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-08 23:26                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-10  2:31                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-10 18:24                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-11  4:40                             ` Jamie Lokier

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