From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mark nic as trusted
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:27:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090110022759.GK1972@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <496688D9.1040708@redhat.com>
Dor Laor wrote:
> As the guest OS's TCP is being used, what do you do about IP address
> space conflicts?
>
> I.e. if NIC #1 is the guest's LAN, and NIC #2 is the vmchannel, how
> is
> the vmchannel NIC going to be configured in a way that's guaranteed
> to
> avoid breaking the LAN networking, which could be assigned any legal
> subnet (especially when bridging is used), and on some networks
> changes from time to time?
>
> Perhaps vmchannel will only use IPv6, so it can confidently pick a
> unique link-local address?
>
> We plan to pick link local subnets for ipv4.
> It solved all the above questions.
Using an ipv4 link local subnet for the vmchannel may break many
guests. The guest's LAN may also be configured with a link local
subnet, so routing will get messed up.
When bridged to the host LAN, any Windows guest on a LAN without DHCP
will break, for example; so will current Linux distros. They use a
link local subnet for the LAN interface, when DHCP is not detected.
(They might do something else when there's a second NIC, though. That
would just be a further complication - you want the vmchannel NIC to
have no visible effect other than the vmchannel apps working).
In fact, the guest's LAN may regularly _change_ between a link local
subnet, a public IP subnet, and a private scope IP subnet (192.168..),
while the guest is running.
This can happen if the guest is bridged to the host's LAN, and the
host is on a network where DHCP is working sometimes, or where the
host is being moved between networks such as a laptop host.
> w.r.t the option of using virtio nic, there is advantage of using
> any other nic since this way there is no requirement to install
> virtio driver on windows or on other older Linux/other OSs.
I agree. Simple vmchannel monitoring apps may port easily to OSes
which don't have a virtio driver, or even run without any changes if
they're simple enough and statically linked.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-10 2:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-07 14:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] mark nic as trusted Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 15:04 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-07 15:19 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 15:41 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-01-07 16:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 16:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 16:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 17:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 18:41 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-07 19:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-07 19:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-08 19:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-08 21:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-08 21:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-08 22:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-08 23:14 ` Dor Laor
2009-01-09 10:41 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-01-10 2:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-10 18:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-11 4:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-11 7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2009-01-11 14:08 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-01-11 15:07 ` Dor Laor
2009-01-11 15:34 ` Blue Swirl
2009-01-11 16:01 ` Dor Laor
2009-01-12 2:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-12 8:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-01-12 12:26 ` Dor Laor
2009-01-10 2:27 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-01-08 23:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-10 2:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-10 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-11 4:40 ` Jamie Lokier
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